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northwestern_student
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6614299.stm
yonsama
Ridiculous. Childish.
catinmyfridge
Genghiz Khan had a good way of dealing with traitors. When he encountered traitors of other people who betrayed their own people and thus helped Genghiz to conquer their country, he led them on to think they would be rewarded for their act of betrayal but once Genghiz had seized full control of the territory he would have these traitors rounded up and swiftly executed.


This is the way Korean traitors should be dealt with too.
SantaKlaws
Most of those traitors are now dead anyways, so whoever they're persecuting, they're the inheritants of the loot. What they do with the loot is not really my concern, but I really do hope that they set their priorities straight.
catinmyfridge
No traitors' descendants should benefit from their ancestors' act of betrayal.

Trust a Korean American to be against the seizing of Korean traitors' loot.

The same person does not speak out against the actions of Jews claiming back property and money they say was taken from them or even suing present-day companies that profited from events that happened in the Nazi era.

It is because these KAs feel KINSHIP with the Korean traitors.

Give them a chance and they will betray Koreans again - these people who defend traitors are not to be trusted. They will turn around and betray YOU. It is in their blood.

Look at an example of such a person's thinking:

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...20&start=20
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What a retarded thread. And no, Mongolians are not "endangered", as long as they have a sovereign state and know the right allies and enemies.


They are always on the lookout for 'allies' - a stronger power they can collect around - even one that rapes their women - this is their mentality. They cannot change.

And KAs complain about KA females not being attracted to them. What do they expect? They don't even defend Korean grandmothers over the comfort women issue and instead sympathize with the Japanese over it; BigBoy asks in another thread "What do they expect from having the Japanese government apologize for its actions and recognize that those things happened?" What indeed?

Who needs them? Pity the Japanese didn't think like Genghiz Khan and didn't execute all the Korean collaborators including Park Jung Hee - the pop idol of these KAs - and instead let them flourish.
Mua
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
Give them a chance and they will betray Koreans again - these people who defend traitors are not to be trusted. They will turn around and betray YOU. It is in their blood.


riiight.
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
Trust a Korean American to be against the seizing of Korean traitors' loot.


Just out of curiosity...

Where did you learn to speak English? Did you learn it from one of the crappy ABC teachers you abhor so much? Did you learn it overseas?

I think you are clearly a self-hating Korean, and you over-emphasize your mock nationalism in order to make up for your shortcomings. You are a sad individual, at any rate.

You give other Koreans a bad image. The people that other races complain about... That's you. Intolerant, blameful, and inferiority-complex driven.

Sure. You'll come back and say something racist, thinking it's sharp and witty. Know beforehand: it isn't.
SantaKlaws
What a load of crap.
Chan-Ho
I dunno but I kind of feel for the Japanese sympathizers. Knowing Korea's politcal situation at the time (yanbian being cocky bastards) and Japan's incredible modernization, I could see many co-operating with the Japanese for both their own personal and Korea's good. I'm sure the Japanese told them alot of false things about what they were going to do with Korea. I dunno, if I was a Korean at the time, I would also be quite tempted to go with the Japanese, unless of course I was one of the brutal Yanbian who ruled with an Iron fist.
doozer3

I really don't see what the big deal is.

Other countries have divested riches gained by collaborators or by corporations, banks, etc.


QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
No traitors' descendants should benefit from their ancestors' act of betrayal.

Trust a Korean American to be against the seizing of Korean traitors' loot.

The same person does not speak out against the actions of Jews claiming back property and money they say was taken from them or even suing present-day companies that profited from events that happened in the Nazi era.

It is because these KAs feel KINSHIP with the Korean traitors.

Give them a chance and they will betray Koreans again - these people who defend traitors are not to be trusted. They will turn around and betray YOU. It is in their blood.

Look at an example of such a person's thinking:


Dude - you are a frickin MORON.


QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
And KAs complain about KA females not being attracted to them. What do they expect?


Uhh, these females aren't attracted to Korean males from Korea as well, since they just arbitrarily EXCLUDE a group based on stereotypes - so NO Won Bin, Oh Ji ho, Kim Sung soo, Kwon Sang-woo, etc. for them either.

What they are generally attracted to is the mainstream ideal (i.e. - WMs) or AMs who fit the profile and run away from anything that has to do with being "Korean" or "Asian."

And gee, Korean girls seem to be attracted to gyopo guys.


QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
They don't even defend Korean grandmothers over the comfort women issue and instead sympathize with the Japanese over it


Don't be such a peon and overexaggerate everything and pick out one small example which goes against the grain.

If anything, some of the harshest critics of Abe and the Japanese on this board have been us Kor-Ams.

AJLee613
it makes me sick. they kill ppl to show them its wrong to help ppl kill ppl? ppl have to learn how to love eachother
catinmyfridge
I know ... it's so terrible being another man's b!tch. First, the Japanese's b!tch, then white Americans' b!tch, then the Jews' b!tch ... and on top of this, they take your women ... you don't get NO respect.

doozer3
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 9 2007, 02:05 AM) [snapback]2932197[/snapback]
I know ... it's so terrible being another man's b!tch. First, the Japanese's b!tch, then white Americans' b!tch, then the Jews' b!tch ... and on top of this, they take your women ... you don't get NO respect.


LOL!!! SOURPUSSY - you're EVERYBODY'S B!TCH!!!
Cha
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
No traitors' descendants should benefit from their ancestors' act of betrayal.

Trust a Korean American to be against the seizing of Korean traitors' loot.

The same person does not speak out against the actions of Jews claiming back property and money they say was taken from them or even suing present-day companies that profited from events that happened in the Nazi era.

It is because these KAs feel KINSHIP with the Korean traitors.

Give them a chance and they will betray Koreans again - these people who defend traitors are not to be trusted. They will turn around and betray YOU. It is in their blood.

Look at an example of such a person's thinking:

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...20&start=20
They are always on the lookout for 'allies' - a stronger power they can collect around - even one that rapes their women - this is their mentality. They cannot change.

And KAs complain about KA females not being attracted to them. What do they expect? They don't even defend Korean grandmothers over the comfort women issue and instead sympathize with the Japanese over it; BigBoy asks in another thread "What do they expect from having the Japanese government apologize for its actions and recognize that those things happened?" What indeed?

Who needs them? Pity the Japanese didn't think like Genghiz Khan and didn't execute all the Korean collaborators including Park Jung Hee - the pop idol of these KAs - and instead let them flourish.

Are you saying that everyone who immigrated to America (except for the native Americans) are all traitors?
And I never saw anyone associate Korean-Americans with collaborators before.
Don't judge a person by where that person lives or by that person's nationality.

catinmyfridge
Who wants to donate to my SAY "NO" TO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST KOREAN TRAITORS fund? Santa Klaws? Chan-Ho? Mua? yonsama? Anyone?

"They don't understand ... it's Hard Work being another man's B!tch. All the arse-licking and self-hating and backstabbing .."

"--- not everyone can DO it ... it's takes a lot of SKILL .. you have to know who the right people are to brown-nose and at the right time what's more ... AND the right people to bash because it changes ..."
QUOTE
.. Mongolians are not "endangered", as long as they have a sovereign state and KNOW the right allies and enemies.


http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=101106
Uri party and Roh Moo Hyun bashing thread
"Anyway we hate Roh Myun Hoo because he's making moves against us. Can't wait 'til that hatchet-faced Park woman gets into power. Then we can all swarm around her like flies and regain some of our lost glory from days of old - BANZAI! Hail Hirohito! or whoever sits on the chrysanthemum throne at the moment... errr right, it's the Jews we work for now, but we're the same guard, the same people who sold Korea happily to the Nipsters -- and you never know, Japan could regain control of Korea again ... the USA Jews seem to want that, is grooming Japan for that .... and if so, we're in like Flynn! .."

"Traitors unite against our foe!!!! - Roh and the Uri Party (and of course as always NORTH KOREA)!"

... some gay threads bashing Roh, North Korea, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, nationalists etc follow .....
YManchun
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
Trust a Korean American to be against the seizing of Korean traitors' loot.


SantaKlaws is not KA dumbass.

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They are always on the lookout for 'allies' - a stronger power they can collect around - even one that rapes their women - this is their mentality. They cannot change.


Are you fricking crazy? Are you trying to say that we shouldn't look for ANY allies?

Every nation looks for the right allies, every nation (Even NORTH KOREA and CHINA tries to establish new relations and alliances). This isn't just a "Korean" thing, I'm starting to think you're a non-Korean pretending to be Korean. If not, than you're sad, retarded human being. The only thing that goes along with your argument is that the poor choice of allies does more to endanger national security than help. However, the right choices and the skillful use of the system opens up strategic options and secures key resources. So now what do we do now when we cut ourselves off from oil-rich countries? Do we have StarTrekish energy-matter replicator to make oil for us? I guess our CoReAN PRyDe is so strong we magically produce oil out of our asses, while we're at it we should pull out an Imperial Star Destroyer with its multi teraton firepower out of our buttholes too, because we're Coreans we can do anything.

By the way, it is often necessary to make allies out of your former enemies. The United States fashioned West Germany and Japan as a major of operations against communist expansion after WW2. Japan was used as a logistics base for the US military to ferry out supplies and units during the Korean and Vietnam War; West Germany's industrial might and manpower was integrated into NATO.

There's no historical foundations for a strong country to stand up against a strong network of alliances by itself for any prolonged period (they can stand up against weak alliances, but not strong ones). While on the other hand there many examples of strong states falling in the face of strong alliances. The superpower Soviet Union collapsed a lot more quickly partly due to China moving away its relations with Soviet Union and establishing a new relations with the US. Even Germany fell because of their poor choice of allies (poor communications and unwillingness to integrate their strategies).

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It is because these KAs feel KINSHIP with the Korean traitors.


A lot of KAs here were either too young to make choice to move overseas or were born overseas. So stop generalizing. What about you? Aren't you a kyopo also? Why don't you put your foot where your mouth is and change your citizenship like retardsrox and hi-head? And Ju-mong has said he didn't have a choice in living in the states.

QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 8 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]2931882[/snapback]
No kidding. I didn't have a choice to come to America and be a lap dog for the white man. Constantly being watched and preyed upon.

Don't have political power here because whites considers us paper Americans for now and someday real Americans if we intermix with white or blacks.


QUOTE(retardsrox @ Apr 29 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]2912191[/snapback]
i also have american citizen ship even tho i'm living in singapore, duh i was born there.... i will be switching to korean citizenship in 5 years time and will go to the army!

come on show some national pride!



QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 9 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]2932266[/snapback]
Who wants to donate to my SAY "NO" TO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST KOREAN TRAITORS fund? Santa Klaws? Chan-Ho? Mua? yonsama? Anyone?

"They don't understand ... it's Hard Work being another man's B!tch. All the arse-licking and self-hating and backstabbing .."

"--- not everyone can DO it ... it's takes a lot of SKILL .. you have to know who the right people are to brown-nose and at the right time what's more ... AND the right people to bash because it changes ..."
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=101106
Uri party and Roh Moo Hyun bashing thread
"Anyway we hate Roh Myun Hoo because he's making moves against us. Can't wait 'til that hatchet-faced Park woman gets into power. Then we can all swarm around her like flies and regain some of our lost glory from days of old - BANZAI! Hail Hirohito! or whoever sits on the chrysanthemum throne at the moment... errr right, it's the Jews we work for now, but we're the same guard, the same people who sold Korea happily to the Nipsters -- and you never know, Japan could regain control of Korea again ... the USA Jews seem to want that, is grooming Japan for that .... and if so, we're in like Flynn! .."

"Traitors unite against our foe!!!! - Roh and the Uri Party (and of course as always NORTH KOREA)!"

... some gay threads bashing Roh, North Korea, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, nationalists etc follow .....


Do you know the history behind this thread? No, you don't because you registered last year of December. We've covered your arguments about the Uri here before, WE'VE COVERED IT. I think I even specifically mentioned in that thread that I didn't think Roh Moo Hyun was a commie because he potentially opened up gaps in our defenses that other countries could exploit, not North Korea.

I can see a lot of ignorance in your knowledge of Roh's defense policies. He didn't just continue on degrading ROK military's defense posture against North Korea, he's also degrading our defense posture against Japan and other powers dimwit.

Your so called "heros" Roh and his cronies are just as fu-king blind as those Chosun morons (the real traitors who left this country open to vicious attacks and annexation), possibly even worse since their policies aren't consistent with each other. He can talk all he wants about forcefully defending Dokdo from Japan or institute anti-japan sympathizers policies, but at the end of the day he shows to be the true traitor of this country by not prioriting national defense spending for defense against threats outside the Korean peninsula.

If Roh was honest about his anti-japan policies, he would've rebuilt Korea's maritime forces to be at least 35% strength of Japan's (minimum standard needed for deterrance). You're "hero" is opening up dokdo territory for the "evil" japanese and the traitors bahaha. I wonder who is the traitor now?

We are so fricking lucky that somebody gave Roh the middle finger and went ahead to acquire 3 more KDX-3s (making it 6 in total).

KJlost's coverage on the maritime power problem that Uri and Roh refuse to solve.


QUOTE(KJlost @ Apr 15 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]1754658[/snapback]
F-15K's Link16 datalink system at the moment is not connected to anything in South Korean air defense network. KF-16s do not carry it. MCRC central air-defense network is not equipped with it. We have no AWACS aircraft with which to connect with.

Little over 100 F-15J of Japan will be getting JHMCS, Link 16, and APG-63(v)1 radar by the time F-15Ks are fully operational, meaning the Japanese will have about equal in air-to-air combat, just 60 more of it.

ROKAF's backbone still is the 173 F-16 and KF-16s. Formiddable aircrafts, but as I've said above, far away from conflict region, and short-legged. It's all about response time. To be able to reach airspace over Dokdo safely, the KF-16s (two squadrons of 155th, 159th FS) will have to scramble, touch-down at Chungju to refuel, and fly to Dokdo at supersonic speed with AB on. This wastes a lot of fuel, and since F-16 is low-drag aircraft, will reduce loiter time significantly. At our current numbers, it would be nearly impossible to maintain a constant combat patrol over Dokdo and surrounding region unless the primary base of operation is shifted over to Chungju airbase and we pull several fighters from Seosan airbase, which will be difficult at best since Chungju is F-5 base and does not have the weapons and parts to service KF-16s effectively.

The Japanese have Gomatsu base closest to the conflict area, which also 'happened' to be the JASDF's primary air-defense base. That's 40 F-15s right off the bat. They can also afford to move F-15s from Hyakkuri if needed since they also house F-15Js. Not only that, Japan has an airfield in Oki island that is far closer to Dokdo.



Can you see the image above? Dokdo is located on the map. See the island named Oki and how close it is when you think there's a supersonic fighter based out of there. Oki airfield can refuel F-15Js, and they won't have to fly far in order to get to the conflict area. F-15s can fly further, which means they can loiter for longer period of time over the area. KF-16s, even with tanks topped in Chungju, has maybe 5~10 minute loiter time, as opposed to F-15s maybe 30 minutes or more. This means in cases of emergency, they can send in more fighters quicker and stay over the area for longer periods of time.

As for Sparrow vs. AMRAAM comparison, it would make a lot of sense if it was F-15 + Sparrow vs. F-15 + AMRAAM. However, this isn't so. In terms of platform, F-15J has superior radar coverage with their APG-63 over the KF-16's APG-68(v)5. Even if they both can get vectored by other source (Japanese and their AWACS aircraft, Koreans and our ground-based radar station) they need contact with their own radar in order to launch missiles.

Once there is proper contact, F-15J with superior speed and thrust power will gain advantageous position first, and close range from KF-16 radar's blind spot (whether it be elevation or azimuth). It's more likely to launch the missile first, and even with a Sparrow, the basic rule that the missile fired first will reach the target first. If the KF-16s launch AMRAAM after gaining contact later, the chances of it hitting are about 50:50 since we can't trust the homing radar the a missile all that much. This means advantage of superior AMRAAM system will be curved by F-15J's superior detection range and tactical flexibility that comes from it and more powerful engines.
South Korean Navy has 9 1200ton class Changbogo. Japan has 18 submarines of Harushio (2,700ton) and Oyashio (3,200ton) class with superior weapons (36knot SUT/White Shark vs. 70knot Type89 torpedo) and superior sensors (Oyashio operates sensors of American nuclear attack submarine class).
supapimp: What do you plan on landing ROKMC into Japan with, row-boats? Protected by fishing ships? Japanese submarines and anti-ship attack aircrafts will blow anyship flying Korean flag out of the water.

The same submarines can also extensively mine our ports. How long can the Korean economy last when every single military and civilian ports are clogged with Japanese mines? A month? Two weeks?

Full out warfare with Japan is out of the question. Limited conflict with Japan, we can't manage.

People likes to talk about spirits and heart and such. This boggles my mind everytime I hear about it. War is a battle of systems. How well prepared your are, and how professional your forces are determines the outcome most of the time. Japanese F-15J pilots take up 200~220 hours per year flying missions and training. ROKAF pillots log about 150 hours per year in training and missions. Who trains more?



QUOTE(KJlost @ Apr 15 2006, 09:15 PM) [snapback]1755389[/snapback]
Recent months have been extremely stressful for people who's been following Korean military matter. I've also been more or less pissed as hell on various occassion, so when this matter came up, I lost my head a bit, so I apologize if I've offended anyone here.

I merely want people to not be overconfident. If the government and the military keep their heads cool, they can develope a fairly significant deterent force against future Japanese and Chinese provocations that may develope.

However, it has been acknowledged recently that under the current administration's policies, internal politics take priority over defense of our homeland. For example, due to anti-American trend of Uri party and President Noh, the E-X program to acquire airborne radar warning aircraft was pushed into the direction of inferior Israeli product rather than American. Navy's KDX destroyer program was virtually cut in half, while significant sum had been allocated for developement of FFX and PKX frigates and fast attack crafts. The difference between the two is that KDX, while superior, uses more foreign products, while FFX is set to use much more domestic products. Air Force is accepting purchase of more A-50 light attack crafts to keep more pilots active than there are fighters. Patriot system purchase was cancelled in favor of further developing KM-SAM system. The common factor? The cancelled or disfavored system, even though they may be superior, are foreign products, or uses many foreign parts. The continued programs are domestic, or at least non-American.

If this trend to please internal politics and policy continues, ROK military may no longer be effective as a fighting force against potential enemies.
no one
This catinmyfridge is paranoic. A biased guy who rely on the authority and failed system of the North to meet his interests. And still praises that disgusting president, it's unbelievable. Should I say more PRO-COMMUNIST or pro-chinese traitor? Well, I would say it's a lot better being pro-Jew than these both LOL...


And about the Japan thing, enough of this already.
YManchun
QUOTE(no one @ May 9 2007, 05:34 AM) [snapback]2932494[/snapback]
This catinmyfridge is paranoic. A biased guy who rely on the authority and failed system of the North to meet his interests. And still praises that disgusting president, it's unbelievable. Should I say more PRO-COMMUNIST or pro-chinese traitor? Well, I would say it's a lot better being pro-Jew than these both LOL...
And about the Japan thing, enough of this already.


Yeah, I wonder what pussycat will say next when he finds out Roh isn't as anti-japanese as he thinks. Oh, hell you don't even have to be anti-japanese to properly allocate resources to the navy and airforce.
Jasel
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 9 2007, 02:05 AM) [snapback]2932197[/snapback]
I know ... it's so terrible being another man's b!tch. First, the Japanese's b!tch, then white Americans' b!tch, then the Jews' b!tch ... and on top of this, they take your women ... you don't get NO respect.



warning. Keep that kind of talk up and you're gone.
Ju-mong
QUOTE(no one @ May 9 2007, 06:34 AM) [snapback]2932494[/snapback]
This catinmyfridge is paranoic. A biased guy who rely on the authority and failed system of the North to meet his interests. And still praises that disgusting president, it's unbelievable. Should I say more PRO-COMMUNIST or pro-chinese traitor? Well, I would say it's a lot better being pro-Jew than these both LOL...
And about the Japan thing, enough of this already.


I think Asians need to stick with each other and not fight with each other. Look at America. It gets full support from European nations which are white controlled. Pro communist and capitalist is just a political clout to identify super powers to be little each other like you do now.
02tonyl
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 9 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]2932686[/snapback]
I think Asians need to stick with each other and not fight with each other. Look at America. It gets full support from European nations which are white controlled. Pro communist and capitalist is just a political clout to identify super powers to be little each other like you do now.


I agree with Jumong 100%, Asians should work for the betterment of Asia and the yellow race
no one
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 9 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]2932686[/snapback]
I think Asians need to stick with each other and not fight with each other. Look at America. It gets full support from European nations which are white controlled. Pro communist and capitalist is just a political clout to identify super powers to be little each other like you do now.



What?



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I agree with Jumong 100%, Asians should work for the betterment of Asia and the yellow race



STFU...
Ju-mong
QUOTE(no one @ May 9 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]2932722[/snapback]
What?
STFU...


kiss.gif confused.gif
dancingbymyself
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
Give them a chance and they will betray Koreans again - these people who defend traitors are not to be trusted. They will turn around and betray YOU. It is in their blood.


Everyone probably has a traitor in their backround somwhere.
no one
QUOTE
I think Asians need to stick with each other and not fight with each other. Look at America. It gets full support from European nations which are white controlled. Pro communist and capitalist is just a political clout to identify super powers to be little each other like you do now.







'K', say something more coherent next time.
Ju-mong
QUOTE(no one @ May 9 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]2932881[/snapback]
'K', say something more coherent next time.


So you not asian right? Been brainwashed lately?
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 9 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]2933181[/snapback]
So you not asian right? Been brainwashed lately?



Asians can't be brainwashed?!?!? Hahahahahahahahahahahah!





Get a clue...
no one
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 9 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]2933181[/snapback]
So you not asian right? Been brainwashed lately?



You better stfu, by the way you write my guess you are chinize, don't ignore the fact that the main enemy here is china with it's crooked mind and its brainwashed people. Who are you accusing of brainwashing when that is exactly what you are doing?



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Thanks Sam Gyupsal, but brainwashing should only be applied to chinize themselves since they are the ones causing trouble in Asia and are the major threat in every aspect, politically, environmentally, geographically, demographically, socially and so on...
Ju-mong
I see this all the time in internet boards. They setup shop in Asian, African, whatever boards and say the exact same thing again and again to make arguments and agree with whites. Close down outsiders or people who don't want to have anything to do with their endeavors.

If all else fails call them a communist or post pictures of NK or Chinese. Run to moderator and ban them. embarassedlaugh.gif

Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 9 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]2933374[/snapback]
I see this all the time in internet boards. They setup shop in Asian, African, whatever boards and say the exact same thing again and again to make arguments and agree with whites. Close down outsiders or people who don't want to have anything to do with their endeavors.

If all else fails call them a communist or post pictures of NK or Chinese. Run to moderator and ban them. embarassedlaugh.gif


Is this your way of saying you have no response? You implied that it was too easy to brainwash non-Asians. You were wrong.
Ju-mong
Just pointing out what I see. I wasn't talking about you. embarassedlaugh.gif
Sam Gyupsal
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 9 2007, 07:14 PM) [snapback]2933403[/snapback]
Just pointing out what I see. I wasn't talking about you. embarassedlaugh.gif



OK. Also, might I add that his response that it was only Chinese that could be brainwashed was a little off-base.
YManchun
Well, the most important thing for now is for the country to look after itself and take its national defense seriously. To do that we shouldn't just think as "Us versus Them" the military as an extension should secure all key, but potentially vulnerable, areas from maybe future external rivals too.

Catinmyfridge's ideas are counterproductive to Korea's interests. Look how he posts my thread bashing the Uri party for their national security incompetence. Even if Cat is a commie, he should still criticize the Uri (Unless catinmyfridge is a warmonger and wants to see the SK army weak so NK military can roll over them), since the army's sole purpose isn't to just defend against NK.

And contrary to what Cat said, this board is not full of "japan-sympathizing traitors", since there's been a lot of criticism against right-wing extremists in Japan and the Chosun's inept military policies.

For example:

QUOTE(EvilAsianDude @ Sep 17 2005, 10:47 AM) [snapback]1047186[/snapback]
the yi/new chosun had some great rulers(Seojon Dae Hwang- helped invent hangul and other stuff). Other than that the Yi had some pathetic, dumb$hit rulers.

Like that dumbass king+government who ruled during Yi Sun Shins time. The King knew that the japanese would invade during the late 1500s but he didnt care, his ego was big and he didnt want to spend money. He actually shrunk the military to under 50,000 troops. Wheras the Japanese sent over 200,000 troops to invade Korea. What made it even worse was that the Japanese were armed with portuguese match lock rifles while the pseudo korean army was armed with spears and bows. Most of the 50,000 troops were also used for things like construction so they didnt have much experience in combat drills. When war began that dumbass King fled to China as soon as possible. On his way the commoners and peasants threw garbage at the king and his men while yelling profanities at him. China sent troops to help the korean guerilla armies(the korean army was pretty much non-existant so it was up to the commeners to fight). while the competant Korean navy(led by Yi Sun Shin who should have been king) destroyed the japanese navy. Once the war turned into Koreas favor that dumb$hit king returned to the capitol. That idiot king later put Yi Sun Shin in prison and dropped his rank from admiral to common foot soilder for a crime he didnt even commit. The king gave the navy a new admiral who was also incompetant(yet friendly with the king). This guy led the korean navy to several defeats, korea lost most of its ships. The government later realized that Yi never committed the crime and begged Yi Sun Shin to command the navy again even though they sent him into prison, forced him to fight as a footsoilder and humiliated him and his familly. Yi agreed to be admiral once again but he didnt have much ships left since most of the ships he used to command were gone. Nevertheless with 13 ships(13 ordinary non turtle ships) he defeated 133 japanese ships. Then he accumulated victory after victory while rebuilding his navy until his ships numbered in the hundreds. Eventually the japanese retreated, Yi chased the japanese ships and killed thousands of japanese in the final naval battle of the second war. Yi was shot in the end by a stray bullet but less than half of the japanese ships and much less than half of the japanese army sent during the second war made it back to japan alive.

After the war korea was devestated. Farmlands were burnt and houses destroyed.

This should have been a lesson for the korea government to modernize and spend more on the military. But that would cost money and the korean government didnt want to spend their own money because they were fu-kin greedy.

Instead the government chose to isolate itself(thats when Korea became the Hermit nation) rather than modernize(modernization = the government having to spend money which means the nobles and people in charge wouldnt be as rich).
During isolation things got worse and worse. The Korean army was already pathetic in size during the 1600s with less than 50000 troops who were more construction workers then soilders. During the late 1800s the korean army shrunk to an even more pathetic 5000.

It was also during the yi dynasty that the army was despised due to certain confucian concepts implemented in korea. Admiral Yi Sun Shin had to freakin bow to poets because poets and scholars had a higher position in society. Yi Sun Shins parents were angry at him for joining the military rather than being a scholar.

Today the problem in north korea seems to be the opposite. The North is spending too much on the army.

doozer3
QUOTE(YManchun @ May 9 2007, 06:17 AM) [snapback]2932476[/snapback]
...you're sad, retarded human being.


YMan - I think that sums it up pretty much.
catinmyfridge
QUOTE(doozer3 @ May 9 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]2933848[/snapback]
YMan - I think that sums it up pretty much.



It's true .... you've convinced me, YManchun, what was I thinking? There should be STATUES erected to Korean traitors.
doozer3
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 9 2007, 11:39 PM) [snapback]2933890[/snapback]
It's true .... you've convinced me, YManchun, what was I thinking? There should be STATUES erected to Korean traitors.


LOL!!! You're just too stupid to realize that you are exactly what you accuse others of being (not to mention s complete laughingstock).
catinmyfridge
Why is that I want to have a shower every time I read YManchun's posts on topics such as "1000 reasons why it is good to be a Korean traitor" or "Why I am a Japanese collaborator and white man's poodle and why you should be too". These people and the people who shield them like doozer3 make my skin crawl.
doozer3
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 10 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]2933944[/snapback]
Why is that I want to have a shower every time I read YManchun's posts on topics such as "1000 reasons why it is good to be a Korean traitor" or "Why I am a Japanese collaborator and white man's poodle and why you should be too". These people and the people who shield them like doozer3 make my skin crawl.


LOL!! Then do everyone a favor and CRAWL AWAY - you brainstem.
catinmyfridge
There's no defense for being a traitor and that's why these weaklings resort to insults after their pathetic justifications for being traitors fall flat. Vituperative foul-mouthed name-calling when backed into a corner; it's in character; these people - traitors - are the lowest form of trash; no matter how much they try and conceal their natures, it will always show in the end; they should be shunned by everyone; snakes in the grass - actually worse than snakes. It is better to have the least dealings with these poisonous people. Korean American lasses on the whole are wise to keep clear of these Korean male "impersonators". You cannot trust one let alone live in the same house with one.

Anyway there's comfort to be taken in the fact that a traitor's lot is never a comfortable one; they might talk themselves into thinking they've done the right thing or more accurately the thing that's best for them, but they will always feel uncertain, will always be looking over their shoulder, always have ghosts on their conscience. They're not happy people and don't have inner peace. And once they betray, they have to keep betraying over and over again - it becomes a habit. And it's not even a matter of having dual loyalty, they have NO true loyalty to anyone or anything except themselves. Japanese -> American whites -> Jews. Look how many switches in allegiance have been shown by the Park Jung Hee family alone. Father passed onto daughter. By their fruits ye shall know them. A traitor is a bad seed and passes the genetic traits that created their treacherous mindset onto their offspring.

Therefore their 'loyalties' are always shifting and as YManchun and Santa Klaws explain, the traitor's tactic is one of keeping their eyes constantly peeled for the next better opportunity to betray and improve their circumstance although they will never be topdog - which is OK as being lapdog, poodle is fine by them.

doozer3 is a fool. He has misplaced loyalty to his fellow Korean Americans. They hold diametrically opposed views about Korean sex slaves and other issues and keep quiet on threads where he posts about them. This is indicative of how 'sincere' doozer3 is about these issues. Or how dumb he is. He is the gatekeeper who lets these traitors into the fold.
doozer3
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 10 2007, 12:28 AM) [snapback]2933978[/snapback]
doozer3 is a fool. He has misplaced loyalty to his fellow Korean Americans. They hold diametrically opposed views about Korean sex slaves and other issues and keep quiet on threads where he posts about them. This is indicative of how 'sincere' doozer3 is about these issues. Or how dumb he is. He is the gatekeeper who lets these traitors into the fold.


Really, where do you come up with this ABSOLUTE CRAP!!!!

Kor-Ams have been among the most VOCAL about the comfort women issue (gee, I wonder why American Congressmen are so interested in an issue that has little to do with the US?).

Korean-Ams were the ones being vocal in getting that one-sided book about a Japanese girl's experience in Korea during the Japanese occupation removed from the curriculum at a no. of school districts.

And btw, you, of all people calling me "dumb" is simply HILARIOUS - thanks for the LAUGH!!!!
Captain Corea
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 9 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]2933978[/snapback]
There's no defense for being a traitor


Good, I'm looking forward to seeing Chung and Noh serve time for what they've done.
catinmyfridge
QUOTE(Captain Corea @ May 9 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]2934024[/snapback]
Good, I'm looking forward to seeing Chung and Noh serve time for what they've done.



Yes, in the mirror world of a White in Korea, being a Korean nationalist is a "crime". Your endorsement of the views of these Korean Americans only confirms for me the fact of their being the white man's poodle; and indeed many Korean nationalists were brutally beaten, tortured and murdered during the American occupation in the period when the Korean traitors and Japanese collaborators reigned supreme (current president Roh was the lawyer for a few of the tortured nationalists). I can only guess that people like Captain Corea and the Korean Americans are salivating at the thought of the country returning to those times. And for the record nobody believes you when you say you are pro-Korea. You've been exposed most heartily in THIS thread as a phoney:

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=117150

You've been smooth but not smooth enough.

And no, it's DOOZER3 who's in danger of losing it, not me.

And it's good to see the traitors collecting to this thread and the people they collaborate with like CC egging them on. At least they are self-identifying. Been most revealing.
Captain Corea
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 10 2007, 12:26 AM) [snapback]2934094[/snapback]
Yes, in the mirror world of a White nationalist in Korea, being a Korean nationalist is a "crime". You endorsement of the views of these Korean Americans only confirms for me the fact of their being the white man's poodle; and indeed many Korean nationalists were brutally beaten, tortured and murdered during the American occupation in the period when the Korean traitors and Japanese collaborators reigned supreme. I can only guess that people like Captain Corea and the Korean Americans are salivating at the thought of the country returning to those times. And for the record nobody believes you when you say you are pro-Korea. You've been exposed most heartily in THIS thread as a phoney:

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=117150

You've been smooth but not smooth enough.

And no, it's DOOZER3 who's in danger of losing it, not me.

And it's good to see the traitors collecting to this thread and their people like CC egging them on. At least they are self-identifying. Been most revealing.



hahahaha, you're making me laugh now. Not once, in any thread, have you proven anything about anyone. You've bandied about flimsy accusations but have never substatiated any of them (unless you call ranting about Jews proof of something). Link to as many threads as you like... the posters here will see how weak your points are.

I strongly suspect that you are not a Korean national. In fact, I think you came to this forum simply to try to stir people up. You do not reply to direct questions and feel this place is the right place for your anit-semetic grudges.


Name one thing that I've said that could be considered traitorous. I believe Noh, and Chung (when unification minister) weakened the defensive capabilities of the South and that they have given far too much to the North with little in return. Note - there are many Koreans who feel the same way.
catinmyfridge
Yes, I am anti-Jewish. What's wrong with it, CC?

You're not a Korean traitor (you're not even Korean) but you're a white liberal, and therefore many of the views that Korean-American traitors have are shared by you, not surprisingly. Liberals are a bit like Korean traitors. They don't have loyalty to anyone either. They are the western counterparts of Korean traitors. They echo like sheep what the Jews who set the liberal agenda tell them to say, as it makes them feel superior (these liberal types have poor ego-concept and they are always looking to boost them - that is their motivation), and they can in certain circumstances, gain many personal advantages - they often adopt roles of thought police to the gentile brethren and are rewarded with some measure of power by the Jews in western society. As I have said some liberals make a lucrative career of it - see all those PhDs and MDs writing papers about Victims and even making victims of people who don't see themselves as such. Victimology began with the rise in power of the liberals: see CC trying to make victims of Jews in this thread.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
I have a plan to destroy America

Actually Jews historically have not been powerless nor the victims in western society; they have most of the time been the opposite, they have been the oppressors of the people, working for the powerful elites above them:

http://www.savethemales.ca/000258.html
The Real Cause of Antisemitism

QUOTE
According to Shahak, historically the Jewish elite often had a symbiotic relationship with the governing class. The Jews would "administer the oppression" of the masses. In return, the governing class would force Jews to obey their "leaders." Sometimes a pogrom would do the trick.

The "Jewish" position was always strongest when the governing class was most at odds with the masses, and when there was least national feeling.

Today, specific Jews (in finance, government, education and especially the media) play a prominent role in the elite's preparation for "globalization," which many see as a modern form of feudalism. Once again, "anti Semitism" is exploited to mobilize Jews (and Christians) to support oppression (e.g. "The War on Terror"), disarm opposition and to deflect blame.


It is the same with many western teachers in Korea who are mostly liberal types: they bash Noh, they want to see a Japanese collaborator's daughter in power in Korea, they think Korea makes too much of the Korean comfort issue and side with Japan over it (although many think the Jews should have a formal apology from the German government and would be horrified to see Germans erecting a shrine to their militarism etc) - I have actually witnessed these attitudes in a thread on Dave's.

They are the flunkeys to the Jews who have now become the "elite" or the governing class. The liberals function as the Jews once did; they are in the business of oppressing the masses for their masters: they promote fascism in Asian countries, they vote for wars in the ME (both Dems and Repubs voted for war in the ME) with the rationale that it is to save the ME from the scourge of Islam, to liberate them from backwardness, or wars in Asia: the excuse there is to save the Asians from communism etc.

The real reason for the wars waged by the west on the east and ME is to destroy the nationalism of the indigenous peoples; this is a much easier task when there are traitors to help them accomplish it - hence the rise of Korean traitors. And now, this goes on offshore; traitors don't even have to live in Korea or even be citizens of Korea to be betraying it; they are groomed to pass on their attitudes and influence Koreans in their adopted homeland; coming across to Korea can make them more effective saboteurs of course, but many native Koreans have sussed onto them - hence the friction between KA males and Korean males - the KAs' arrogant attitude and behaving like whites (parrotting their ideas and opinions) to Koreans don't help either.

The Korean-American traitors are so steeped in their treachery that they behave very boldly, audaciously even - see how they try and justify their treachery above (almost boastingly as if they want acclaim for their sneakiness); they don't even DENY they are traitors .... they even recommend betrayal as a personal behavioral code to other ethnic groups! They think they are clever being what they are, doing what they do.

And yep, I'm anti-Jewish and proud of it. And I don't like liberals like YOU.

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
Prime Minister Menachem Begin as reported in the New Statesman.
SantaKlaws
I'm a Korean nationalist, and I don't see any "whites" here b!tching at me.
Mua
lol korean nazi? you are the biggest traitor of all of us, get the fu-k out of this forum and join stormfront you stupid monkey.

QUOTE
Seoul is an ugly city. Compared to some cities in other countries like Canada, Australia, the US, Seoul is ugly - ugly badly built concrete buildings. There are not many trees and black dust from the air pollution soon coats everything. It is a gray city and doesn't have nice clean streets and the buildings and footpaths are not well-maintained.


traitor. LOL
catinmyfridge
Yes, I am a Korean "Nazi". I am a Korean nationalist and don't like Jews. What's wrong with that, Mua dear? Are you a Jew?

Really, you should take your pills or something. Your screeching is quite uncivilized.
QUOTE
I'm a Korean nationalist, and I don't see any "whites" here b!tching at me.


Haha.

You're not a Korean nationalist. You're a Korean traitor. That's WHY you don't see whites b!tching at you - and why they're constantly b!tching at ME. See?
SantaKlaws
Wow, there aren't many trees in Seoul? This city is surrounded by mountains, and there are no trees? sure.gif

I have very fond memories of hiking up the mountain with either my dad or my mom or both to get some mountain water. Yeah, that's the life of a Seoulite, where catsinmyfridge thinks "there are no trees".

QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 10 2007, 06:36 PM) [snapback]2934379[/snapback]
You're not a Korean nationalist. You're a Korean traitor. That's WHY you don't see whites b!tching at you - and why they're constantly b!tching at ME. See?


Geez, I'm a traitor and you're a Korean nationalist? Let me test you on Korean nationalism 101. What is the foundation of Korean nationalism?
catinmyfridge
Lying about Korea doesn't make you a nationalist - it makes you the opposite. You are behaving in a patronizing way to Koreans. False flattery. Traitors know all about such trickery.

I don't like the plastic surgery here in Korea either - there's too much of it.

It's not about knowledge either. Park Chung Hee, a Korean traitor, knew a lot about Korean history too.

The fact of your treachery, Santa Klaws, is written all over this forum, in threads and posts, even in THIS thread. You espoused that it is not a 'priority' for the government to seize traitors' lands in this thread. Reading between the lines, it seems that being a traitor is not a big deal to you. Putting what you post in many threads and your comment about 'priority', the conclusion that can be drawn is that you have sympathy for these traitors because you are a traitor YOURSELF. And this is why the whites don't bash you and stalk you like they do me ALL THE TIME. You have even said so yourself. Traitors and whites get on well. Traitors and Japanese get on well. Because the whites and Japanese know the traitors are on their side. The proof is in the pudding, is it not?

And I recall in some deleted thread where you said that Korea should consider Japan as more of an ally than the Chinese and I responded that NO TRUE KOREAN would say something like that. And I know this because even though I consider myself to be very nationalistic, many other Koreans are even MORE so, even young kids. If I said something like what you did (which I never would BTW), they would be angry at me.

In contrast, many KAs got MAD when I said Korean traitors should be executed. That is why all the abuse was directed at me in this thread. Nationalists would agree with me. Traitors defend other traitors and shriek insults at a person like me who says this kind of thing.

But you know, so steeped are you in your treachery that I think you don't believe being a Japanese collaborator is being a traitor. And you're not the only KA who thinks like that. (And to me you are a KA, not a Korean, you may not be a citizen but everything that you betray of your heart and soul indicates that you are a KA. A KA traitor. They all show the same attitudes and have the same political affiliations. The Park family are people you admire and seek to emulate - they are the traitors' role models - you would degrade Korea's sovereignty to elevate your own personal fortune and circumstance.)

Maybe in your traitor's mind, being against traitors is being a 'traitor'. Because traitors are your people, so in some twisted way, I am betraying you and your kind. IOW being against KA traitors and revealing the high percentage of KAs who reveal the traitorship mentality is being a traitor to KOREAN-AMERICANS. Because the traitors see themselves as some kind of group, support group if you will, one that is made up of traitors and one where members find commonality in the way they think.

In a traitor's realm, it is a reverse-world where everything is backwards:

- Speaking against Korean traitors and saying they should be executed is being a 'traitor' (in this world of course).

- Supporting Korean traitors and saying what a shame it is that their descendents cannot profit from their act of treachery = nationalistic behavior

- Being favored by whites because one is a lapdog of theirs does not mean you can't be a nationalist.

- Being hated by whites = being a white-lover and a 'traitor' (in this reverse world).

- Being a Japanese collaborator or a US collaborator = nationalist ...

Ah, I see now .... yes, in the reverse world where you dwell, and where things are seen through the eyes of a traitor, your attitudes and comments all make sense.
SantaKlaws
Man, you're one serious nutjob. FYI, if you tell one of those older generation Koreans, who is in no way a "treacherous Korean American", that Park Chung Hee is a traitor, they'll beat the fu-k out of you.
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