QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 8 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]2930312[/snapback]
Trust a Korean American to be against the seizing of Korean traitors' loot.
SantaKlaws is not KA dumbass.
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They are always on the lookout for 'allies' - a stronger power they can collect around - even one that rapes their women - this is their mentality. They cannot change.
Are you fricking crazy? Are you trying to say that we shouldn't look for
ANY allies?
Every nation looks for the
right allies,
every nation (Even NORTH KOREA and CHINA tries to establish new relations and alliances). This isn't just a "Korean" thing, I'm starting to think you're a non-Korean pretending to be Korean. If not, than you're sad, retarded human being. The only thing that goes along with your argument is that the poor choice of allies does more to endanger national security than help. However, the right choices and the skillful use of the system opens up strategic options and secures key resources. So now what do we do now when we cut ourselves off from oil-rich countries? Do we have StarTrekish energy-matter replicator to make oil for us? I guess our CoReAN PRyDe is so strong we magically produce oil out of our asses, while we're at it we should pull out an Imperial Star Destroyer with its multi teraton firepower out of our buttholes too, because we're Coreans we can do anything.
By the way, it is often necessary to make allies out of your former enemies. The United States fashioned West Germany and Japan as a major of operations against communist expansion after WW2. Japan was used as a logistics base for the US military to ferry out supplies and units during the Korean and Vietnam War; West Germany's industrial might and manpower was integrated into NATO.
There's no historical foundations for a strong country to stand up against a strong network of alliances by itself for any prolonged period (they can stand up against weak alliances, but not strong ones). While on the other hand there many examples of strong states falling in the face of strong alliances. The superpower Soviet Union collapsed a lot more quickly partly due to China moving away its relations with Soviet Union and establishing a new relations with the US. Even Germany fell because of their poor choice of allies (poor communications and unwillingness to integrate their strategies).
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It is because these KAs feel KINSHIP with the Korean traitors.
A lot of KAs here were either too young to make choice to move overseas or were born overseas. So stop generalizing. What about you? Aren't you a kyopo also? Why don't you put your foot where your mouth is and change your citizenship like retardsrox and hi-head? And Ju-mong has said he didn't have a choice in living in the states.
QUOTE(Ju-mong @ May 8 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]2931882[/snapback]
No kidding. I didn't have a choice to come to America and be a lap dog for the white man. Constantly being watched and preyed upon.
Don't have political power here because whites considers us paper Americans for now and someday real Americans if we intermix with white or blacks.
QUOTE(retardsrox @ Apr 29 2007, 08:43 AM) [snapback]2912191[/snapback]
i also have american citizen ship even tho i'm living in singapore, duh i was born there.... i will be switching to korean citizenship in 5 years time and will go to the army!
come on show some national pride!
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 9 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]2932266[/snapback]
Who wants to donate to my SAY "NO" TO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST KOREAN TRAITORS fund? Santa Klaws? Chan-Ho? Mua? yonsama? Anyone?
"They don't understand ... it's
Hard Work being another man's B!tch. All the arse-licking and self-hating and backstabbing .."
"--- not everyone can DO it ... it's takes a lot of
SKILL .. you have to know who the right people are to brown-nose and at the right time what's more ... AND the right people to bash because it
changes ..."
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=101106 Uri party and Roh Moo Hyun bashing thread"Anyway we hate Roh Myun Hoo because he's making moves against us. Can't wait 'til that hatchet-faced Park woman gets into power. Then we can all swarm around her like flies and regain some of our lost glory from days of old - BANZAI! Hail Hirohito! or whoever sits on the chrysanthemum throne at the moment... errr right, it's the Jews we work for now, but we're the same guard, the same people who sold Korea happily to the Nipsters -- and you never know, Japan could regain control of Korea again ... the USA Jews seem to want that, is grooming Japan for that .... and if so, we're in like Flynn! .."
"Traitors unite against our foe!!!! - Roh and the Uri Party (and of course as always NORTH KOREA)!"
... some gay threads bashing Roh, North Korea, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, nationalists etc follow .....
Do you know the history behind this thread? No, you don't because you registered last year of December. We've covered your arguments about the Uri here before, WE'VE COVERED IT. I think I even specifically mentioned in that thread that I didn't think Roh Moo Hyun was a commie because he potentially opened up gaps in our defenses that
other countries could exploit, not North Korea.
I can see a lot of ignorance in your knowledge of Roh's defense policies. He didn't just continue on degrading ROK military's defense posture against North Korea, he's also degrading our defense posture against Japan and other powers dimwit.
Your so called "heros" Roh and his cronies are just as fu-king blind as those Chosun morons (the real traitors who left this country open to vicious attacks and annexation), possibly even worse since their policies aren't consistent with each other. He can talk all he wants about forcefully defending Dokdo from Japan or institute anti-japan sympathizers policies, but at the end of the day he shows to be the true traitor of this country by not prioriting national defense spending for defense against threats outside the Korean peninsula.
If Roh was
honest about his anti-japan policies, he would've rebuilt Korea's maritime forces to be at least 35% strength of Japan's (minimum standard needed for deterrance). You're "hero" is opening up dokdo territory for the "evil" japanese and the traitors bahaha. I wonder who is the traitor now?
We are so fricking lucky that somebody gave Roh the middle finger and went ahead to acquire 3 more KDX-3s (making it 6 in total).
KJlost's coverage on the maritime power problem that Uri and Roh refuse to solve.
QUOTE(KJlost @ Apr 15 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]1754658[/snapback]
F-15K's Link16 datalink system at the moment is not connected to anything in South Korean air defense network. KF-16s do not carry it. MCRC central air-defense network is not equipped with it. We have no AWACS aircraft with which to connect with.
Little over 100 F-15J of Japan will be getting JHMCS, Link 16, and APG-63(v)1 radar by the time F-15Ks are fully operational, meaning the Japanese will have about equal in air-to-air combat, just 60 more of it.
ROKAF's backbone still is the 173 F-16 and KF-16s. Formiddable aircrafts, but as I've said above, far away from conflict region, and short-legged. It's all about response time. To be able to reach airspace over Dokdo safely, the KF-16s (two squadrons of 155th, 159th FS) will have to scramble, touch-down at Chungju to refuel, and fly to Dokdo at supersonic speed with AB on. This wastes a lot of fuel, and since F-16 is low-drag aircraft, will reduce loiter time significantly. At our current numbers, it would be nearly impossible to maintain a constant combat patrol over Dokdo and surrounding region unless the primary base of operation is shifted over to Chungju airbase and we pull several fighters from Seosan airbase, which will be difficult at best since Chungju is F-5 base and does not have the weapons and parts to service KF-16s effectively.
The Japanese have Gomatsu base closest to the conflict area, which also 'happened' to be the JASDF's primary air-defense base. That's 40 F-15s right off the bat. They can also afford to move F-15s from Hyakkuri if needed since they also house F-15Js. Not only that, Japan has an airfield in Oki island that is far closer to Dokdo.

Can you see the image above? Dokdo is located on the map. See the island named Oki and how close it is when you think there's a supersonic fighter based out of there. Oki airfield can refuel F-15Js, and they won't have to fly far in order to get to the conflict area. F-15s can fly further, which means they can loiter for longer period of time over the area. KF-16s, even with tanks topped in Chungju, has maybe 5~10 minute loiter time, as opposed to F-15s maybe 30 minutes or more. This means in cases of emergency, they can send in more fighters quicker and stay over the area for longer periods of time.
As for Sparrow vs. AMRAAM comparison, it would make a lot of sense if it was F-15 + Sparrow vs. F-15 + AMRAAM. However, this isn't so. In terms of platform, F-15J has superior radar coverage with their APG-63 over the KF-16's APG-68(v)5. Even if they both can get vectored by other source (Japanese and their AWACS aircraft, Koreans and our ground-based radar station) they need contact with their own radar in order to launch missiles.
Once there is proper contact, F-15J with superior speed and thrust power will gain advantageous position first, and close range from KF-16 radar's blind spot (whether it be elevation or azimuth). It's more likely to launch the missile first, and even with a Sparrow, the basic rule that the missile fired first will reach the target first. If the KF-16s launch AMRAAM after gaining contact later, the chances of it hitting are about 50:50 since we can't trust the homing radar the a missile all that much. This means advantage of superior AMRAAM system will be curved by F-15J's superior detection range and tactical flexibility that comes from it and more powerful engines.
South Korean Navy has 9 1200ton class Changbogo. Japan has 18 submarines of Harushio (2,700ton) and Oyashio (3,200ton) class with superior weapons (36knot SUT/White Shark vs. 70knot Type89 torpedo) and superior sensors (Oyashio operates sensors of American nuclear attack submarine class).
supapimp: What do you plan on landing ROKMC into Japan with, row-boats? Protected by fishing ships? Japanese submarines and anti-ship attack aircrafts will blow anyship flying Korean flag out of the water.
The same submarines can also extensively mine our ports. How long can the Korean economy last when every single military and civilian ports are clogged with Japanese mines? A month? Two weeks?
Full out warfare with Japan is out of the question. Limited conflict with Japan, we can't manage.
People likes to talk about spirits and heart and such. This boggles my mind everytime I hear about it. War is a battle of systems. How well prepared your are, and how professional your forces are determines the outcome most of the time. Japanese F-15J pilots take up 200~220 hours per year flying missions and training. ROKAF pillots log about 150 hours per year in training and missions. Who trains more?
QUOTE(KJlost @ Apr 15 2006, 09:15 PM) [snapback]1755389[/snapback]
Recent months have been extremely stressful for people who's been following Korean military matter. I've also been more or less pissed as hell on various occassion, so when this matter came up, I lost my head a bit, so I apologize if I've offended anyone here.
I merely want people to not be overconfident. If the government and the military keep their heads cool, they can develope a fairly significant deterent force against future Japanese and Chinese provocations that may develope.
However, it has been acknowledged recently that under the current administration's policies, internal politics take priority over defense of our homeland. For example, due to anti-American trend of Uri party and President Noh, the E-X program to acquire airborne radar warning aircraft was pushed into the direction of inferior Israeli product rather than American. Navy's KDX destroyer program was virtually cut in half, while significant sum had been allocated for developement of FFX and PKX frigates and fast attack crafts. The difference between the two is that KDX, while superior, uses more foreign products, while FFX is set to use much more domestic products. Air Force is accepting purchase of more A-50 light attack crafts to keep more pilots active than there are fighters. Patriot system purchase was cancelled in favor of further developing KM-SAM system. The common factor? The cancelled or disfavored system, even though they may be superior, are foreign products, or uses many foreign parts. The continued programs are domestic, or at least non-American.
If this trend to please internal politics and policy continues, ROK military may no longer be effective as a fighting force against potential enemies.