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AEROFORCE1
QUOTE(khunshaw @ Jul 29 2008, 05:59 AM) [snapback]3837370[/snapback]
I just joined this AF. I have posted my comments in other Khmer's site as follow:

While Khmer people are celebrating their victory on Pra Viharn Temple (or shall I say “Modern Trojan Horse with foreign corporations inside not Thai”), I begin to think what’s likely to happen in the future is that the ICJ’s decision will conclude as follow:

“Rather than continue arguing endlessly about which country owns the disputed area, a much better approach would be for both countries to immediately agree that it is something akin to an “international peace park,” with neither side claiming “sovereignty”.

Meanwhile in the Cambodia’s heartland, more than 70% of useful land were 99 years “land leased” by foreign corporations approved by The Great King Hun Sen. This is a new method of “Modern Colonization”. Kingdom of Cambodia will be renamed as The New Kingdom of HUNSENIA.

I am sorry to say that but this is happening now. Can’t you see that Childish Thai and Khmer were played like Toys.
Let’s go to ICJ. I think this time Thailand will will be likely to appeal/propose for using the site as an “international peace park”. No smoking, only non petroleum transportation in the peace park (pollution free), electricity produced by wind and solar means, no pubs or bars, and site’s incomes used only for education funds on both countries. I think this idea will be happily supported by many countries.

Then focus each other attention on the doomed internal affairs. Do it before the relocation of poor Khmer who were forced out of their houses to Pra Viharn’s vicinity which will be renamed the kingdom of Cambodia, a little brother country of HUSENIA’S KINGDOM.

Many comments about the superiority of extinct ancient kingdom amused me so much. It seems to me that they are suffering a symptom of the Delusions of Grandeur. It is shameful claiming to be descendent of an extinct ancient Khom race just to live in that area. What would you think if the Italian claim to be Roman’s descendent, Muslim Egyptian to be the ancient Egyptian’s or German as Arian race? The human races are all mixed up now. Descendent of old royal families were usually the society’s decayed. No such pure race survived anymore. Animals like horses or dogs in the show have pure breed or pure blood. The Fools are always insulting other race where the wises are helping and encouraging.

This sacred Hindu Temple should be shared in admiration of its artistic beauty by all people. In the near future, the Temple will be declared as International Peace Park. Stop all the never ending selfish arguments of sovereignty. Give the Temple to the people of the world.

Pra Wiharn International Peace Park will be a showcase which has four dog cages on four corners. These dogs are from the same litter (Southeast Asia) owned by the multinational corporations whose philosophy is “divide and conquer”. They will let these dogs (named as Vietnam, Lao, Khmer, and Thai) barking at each other and occasionally the dogs will be released for sovereignty dog fight as good exercise.

PAD are fighting with the shameless, unethical and severely corrupted politicians for better Thailand. UNESCO is influenced by multinational corporations that want to exploit this SEA region.

Southeast Asia will be the world’s greatest food supplier. Vietnam, Lao, Khmer, and Thai farmers can cooperate and exchange knowledge for improving the livings and gaining their bargaining power with the produced middleman. They should do it very soon before the fertile land being gobbled up by multinational corporations.

It is true Thai borrowed Khmer, Lao, Chinese, Malay, Indian arts, customs and ceremonial ritual. Thailand is a land of mixed people mostly consisted of Mon, Khmer, Lao, Chinese, Malay and Tai. They are trying to live together harmoniously. Bad governments can destroy the peace and harmony.
I do not care whether Khmer have pity on the political crisis between the king and Thaksin but I pity on Khmer in the city who are forced to leave their houses/land without fair compensation for foreign corporations’ buildings. What I really like to see is Thugsin going jail and his assets confiscated by Thai constitutional Court. He is a worst kind of capitalist who brought his way to political power and used it to amend the laws to favor his business endeavors which will control Thai economy. The world eventually will be controlled and dictated by international corporations if citizen of each country become indifferent. Like Thailand, Cambodia is being swallowed by these corporations. They can buy Hun Sen who in turn will use their money to gain his total control of Cambodia and common Khmer will only share their discarded bones. I never trust any country’s leaders who are not being checked by others local different groups. Present Thai governments would love to have war now to declare marshal law to suppress the Pad and change Thai constitution.

The PAD used the Viharn Temple issue to charge Thugsin’s puppets in Thai Government with treason to get rid of them. This does not mean that the Pad is really on the old Thai elites’ side. The old Thai elites are only a bit less evil than Thugsin. If the Pad succeed, the Temple conflict will cool down and become a none issue.

As a Buddhist, I would like to see is that the Viharn Temple’s vicinity has no big commercial vices like Casinos or bars that will causes the sprout of drugs, prostitution and Mafias. I regard the mountain range as sacred. I do not really care who own the Temple’s right as long as the site is being taken good care of. Eventually, international antiquity experts will repair and rebuild the Temple’s original beauty like what ’s happening in Greece.

It is OK to hate the Thai as your history taught you but be suspicious of other foreigners as they are not better than Thai. Sometimes hatred make you strong, yet too much will destroy you. I do not suffer from the delusion of grandeur. Ancient kingdoms’ destructions were mostly cause by weakness and vices of the kings who did not take good care of people and lost Heaven’s favors.

I hope these ideas may be of help.


A guy said pretty much the same things as what I want to say here ,but I not has enough time for all this. The border conflict is cause by the inside political issue within both country.
Point_Dexter
It all boils down to money,

Khmer want, Thai want it. ...its all fair game.
Goombaking209
Don't you think we were aware of this? To me, Preah Vihear is the first step for Cambodians to rightfully claim back Khmer lore and we handed the temple to the world because now Preah Vihear is not Cambodian's, it is UNESCO's.. An ancient site that belongs to the world community in the name of a Khmer/Cambodian monument. I've known for a while Cambodia (Hun Sen) wanted to develop Preah Vihear by making it another tourist destination and developing the area into an international trading hub and what not, but that has very little value to why I think take this issue so seriously. To me this issue is more for pride of Cambodians. Though its purely a political over-publicized issue to you, its a waking call to have all Cambodians and Khmer unite.
AEROFORCE1
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Jul 29 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]3838525[/snapback]
To me this issue is more for pride of Cambodians. Though its purely a political over-publicized issue to you, its a waking call to have all Cambodians and Khmer unite.

Sorry may be this would be the last comment on this thread. We not consider it as the big issue since we got much more important issue to handle with. Eg petro price ,improve our political standard and promote Thailand as the world kitchen. If you guys want pride why dont your goverment just spend your time to develop the country instead of try to gain face by fighting with the neighbor?
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 29 2008, 02:40 AM) [snapback]3838595[/snapback]
Sorry may be this would be the last comment on this thread. We not consider it as the big issue since we got much more important issue to handle with. Eg petro price ,improve our political standard and promote Thailand as the world kitchen. If you guys want pride why dont your goverment just spend your time to develop the country instead of try to gain face by fighting with the neighbor?

Thats one less Siem to deal with. Good move. biggthumpup.gif

Just that you know, Cambodia is being developed all around, but its hard to develope a temple when someone keep b!tching that it is theirs.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 28 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]3838595[/snapback]
Sorry may be this would be the last comment on this thread. We not consider it as the big issue since we got much more important issue to handle with. Eg petro price ,improve our political standard and promote Thailand as the world kitchen. If you guys want pride why dont your goverment just spend your time to develop the country instead of try to gain face by fighting with the neighbor?


That is exactly what they are planning for Preah Vihear. Industrial development does not make me proud, but cultural evolution does. Please understand that just as Thailand is promoting Thai cuisine to be the world kitchen, Cambodia is also promoting Khmer Civilization to the world.

Fighting with neighbor? Your politicians stirred up this Preah Vihear complex in Thailand and raised severe levels of nationalism out of proportion and now WE are the ones fighting you guys? Aeroforce, what is wrong with you? This was all government related talks months ago, but I guess you are a big supporter of the PAD oppositing government so you believe their side more than the big picture. Had the Thai troops not pulled in at the border, the Cambodian troops wouldn't have either. Had the stupid "Monk" and 2 other Thai juveniles not illegally crossed into the temple to try and plant a Thai flag, the Cambodian border rangers would not have arrested them. icon_neutral.gif
DeeJai
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 29 2008, 01:40 AM) [snapback]3838595[/snapback]
Sorry may be this would be the last comment on this thread. We not consider it as the big issue since we got much more important issue to handle with. Eg petro price ,improve our political standard and promote Thailand as the world kitchen. If you guys want pride why dont your goverment just spend your time to develop the country instead of try to gain face by fighting with the neighbor?


Your acting like Thailand is the not aggressor and its all Cambodia's fault. Blame your government, not Cambodia.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(DeeJai @ Jul 29 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]3838692[/snapback]
Your acting like Thailand is the not aggressor and its all Cambodia's fault. Blame your government, not Cambodia.

Cambodia doesn't exist anymore. Haven't you heard the news yet?
Kdaw_Tmaw
He admitted that the border issue was politically motivated and the brainwashed Thai people reacted strongly to it.
Goombaking209
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Jul 29 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]3838696[/snapback]
Cambodia doesn't exist anymore. Haven't you heard the news yet?


Just STFU and remain with the facts that your HIV is still positive.
AEROFORCE1
I still remember how Thai people feel about burma its because of the education and media ,and now Khmer do the same things simple enough. If ask a burmerse guy that do they hate Thai? They would reply that they feel not things. I admit that I used to hate burma though

This news is one of the great example of a tool that provoke Khmer people

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/200...iable-Fact.html
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Jul 29 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]3838700[/snapback]
He admitted that the border issue was politically motivated and the brainwashed Thai people reacted strongly to it.

Gooberqueen has let us know the truth though in another thread. There is no such place as Kampuchea. No more Cambodia, it's nothingsville. Not a great loss to the World anyway so nothing to worry about. We're better off without it so let's all thank Gooberqueen for fixing things up for us and making the World a better place at last!

Thank you Gooberqueen for ridding us off the scourge of the planet at last! Hooray! beerchug.gif
Goombaking209
I smell a White-Sirikittong LOL
Goombaking209
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 29 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]3838706[/snapback]
I still remember how Thai people feel about burma its because of the education and media ,and now Khmer do the same things simple enough. If ask a burmerse guy that do they hate Thai? They would reply that they feel not things. I admit that I used to hate burma though

This news is one of the great example of a tool that provoke Khmer people

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/200...iable-Fact.html


What happened between Siam and Burma was hundreds of years ago before being victims of colonialism. Stop being so dense will you Aero!?!? The accounts of Khmer rouge victims in Thailand is very alive and there are hundreds of people who personally were victimized by the Thais, needless to say they were already victims of war. Do you believe Khmer Rouge was 100 years ago? Think again! It is ONE generation ago, 35/36 years ago to be exact.
Kdaw_Tmaw
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:17 AM) [snapback]3838706[/snapback]
I still remember how Thai people feel about burma its because of the education and media ,and now Khmer do the same things simple enough. If ask a burmerse guy that do they hate Thai? They would reply that they feel not things. I admit that I used to hate burma though

This news is one of the great example of a tool that provoke Khmer people

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/200...iable-Fact.html

No one is hating anyone here or at Preah Vihear Temple. Khmers are just trying to simply tell Thai people to leave us alone and let us get on with our lives and business.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Kdaw_Tmaw @ Jul 29 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]3838735[/snapback]
No one is hating anyone here or at Preah Vihear Temple. Khmers are just trying to simply tell Thai people to leave us alone and let us get on with our lives and business.

Then lose your frucking map, you dissident!

You is hating Thailand and you're making it rather bloody obvious.

You do the crime, you do the time.

tazzytazz
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Jul 29 2008, 03:43 AM) [snapback]3838739[/snapback]
Then lose your frucking map, you dissident!

You is hating Thailand and you're making it rather bloody obvious.

You do the crime, you do the time.

uhh. why is there a white person interfering with our conflicts. seanmoran you need to butt out. this is not your business. seems like youve been trying very hard to instigate conflicts between khmers and thais.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(tazzytazz @ Jul 29 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]3838764[/snapback]
uhh. why is there a white person interfering with our conflicts. seanmoran you need to butt out. this is not your business. seems like youve been trying very hard to instigate conflicts between khmers and thais.

I suggest you get off the Internet and go there then, white boy. Only then can you sort things out proper because all you gonna get here is interference from everyone. If you don't like it then stfu and nobody will talk to you.


Goombaking209
QUOTE(tazzytazz @ Jul 29 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]3838764[/snapback]
uhh. why is there a white person interfering with our conflicts. seanmoran you need to butt out. this is not your business. seems like youve been trying very hard to instigate conflicts between khmers and thais.


Don't mind him. He's just feeling left out that this world no longer revolves around whities, instead its a community of all people. He's just depressed that his opionions no longer reflect that of his imperialistic heritage. Poor Moron, go sulk and meddle into someone else's affair.. Oh wait, you owe your life to a Thai doctor therefore have underlying obligations to Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Jul 29 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]3838798[/snapback]
Oh wait, you owe your life to a Thai doctor therefore have underlying obligations to Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif

Surely is a purely political issue to you isn't it? I hope Obama dies before your pitiful little election just for your sake.
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Goombaking209
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Jul 29 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]3838815[/snapback]
Surely is a purely political issue to you isn't it? I hope Obama dies before your pitiful little election just for your sake.
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Wishing upon someone else's death thumbsdown.gif You just painted your true colors there. Perhaps your daughter's death didn't teach you anything afterall, Moron.
SeanMoran
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Jul 29 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]3838870[/snapback]
Wishing upon someone else's death thumbsdown.gif You just painted your true colors there. Perhaps your daughter's death didn't teach you anything afterall, Moron.

I'll withold my reply until after you've had time to read the epic saga I just left you in the other thread. beerchug.gif
chin069
QUOTE(SeanMoran @ Jul 29 2008, 04:20 AM) [snapback]3838788[/snapback]
I suggest you get off the Internet and go there then, white boy. Only then can you sort things out proper because all you gonna get here is interference from everyone. If you don't like it then stfu and nobody will talk to you.


Isn't funny how Sean Moron is telling another white person to stfu. laugh.gif What a moron! Sean, you stfu!!
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