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modernthai
King Naresun 3 Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBTLN-zrwV0





(Left) Burmese King Nandabayin of Myanmar and (Right) King of Lovek [Phrayalavaek]




kevo
Finally finally finally!!!!

I've been waiting to see the last episode of Naresuan....looks GOOOOOOD!!!
Where did you find info on the 3rd project???

I can't believe that there's actually going to include the Khmer/Khom Kingdom of Lovek......can't wait to see how we Khmer/Khom are portrayed & what side we are going to be on. Interesting.....hmmm.....when is this coming out???

Anyways thanks for the update on the film. beerchug.gif
modernthai
QUOTE (kevo @ Aug 13 2009, 02:58 PM) *
Finally finally finally!!!!

I've been waiting to see the last episode of Naresuan....looks GOOOOOOD!!!
Where did you find info on the 3rd project???

I can't believe that there's actually going to include the Khmer/Khom Kingdom of Lovek......can't wait to see how we Khmer/Khom are portrayed & what side we are going to be on. Interesting.....hmmm.....when is this coming out???

Anyways thanks for the update on the film. beerchug.gif


the production is very late because the director of this movie is so careful in making the film
I find it out in a Thai website, in fact I have tried to search it in English but only Thai language is shown

I think in this movie the Khmer won't be much portrayed
because the fight between Siam and Burma (Hongsawadhi) is being more focused
BECAUSE IT IS THE CLIMAX OF FIGHTING, DEAD OR ALIVE

If you study Thai history, Ayothaya Srirammathepnakorn
is under Burmese rule and the king fight for the freedom
modernthai
In 1592, Nanda Bayin ordered his son to attack Ayutthaya again. Minchit Sra, along with the Lord of Pyay, Nat Shin Naung the son of the Lord of Toungoo, and the Burmese King of Lanna, led the Burmese into Siam. Minchit Sra himself went through Chedi Sam Ong peacefully and reached Suphanburi, while other came from the north. Naresuan was planning to conquer Cambodia, but then he had to change his intentions. Naresuan encamped his armies at Nong Sarai. The Burmese then arrived, leading to the Battle of Nong Sarai.

During the battle, the elephants of Naresuan and Ekathotsarot went mad and ran into the midst of the Burmese. Siamese Chronicles stated that there were fake Minchit Sras but Naresuan pointed out the real one from the honorary decorations. Naresuan then urged Minchit Sra to fight with him:


My brother, why do you hide yourself in the canopy shadows? Let us fight the elephant battle for our own honors. No future kings will do what we are going to do.


The personal battle between Naresuan and Minchit Sra was a highly-romanticized historical scene known as Yuttahadhi, the Elephant battle. Minchit Sra was slashed to death on the back of his elephant. This was on Monday, the 2nd waning day of the 2nd month of the Buddhist calendar Chulasakarat Era year 954. Calculated to correspond to Monday, January 18, AD 1593 of the Gregorian calendar, this date is now observed as Royal Thai Armed Forces day. Naresuan then built a pagoda on the site of Yutthahadhi as a victory monument. However, modern historians are still unable to locate the pagoda.

Naresuan intended to execute all the soldiers in the battle of Nong Sarai who had provided no support to him and his brother. Somdet Phra Wannarat - a bhikkhu - calmed Naresuan to get him to lift the punishment. Naresuan then instead ordered them to take Tavoy and Tenasserim.
Euphoria
Wow, wanna watch this. biggthumpup.gif
kevo
Sorry, excuse my ignorance..........who is Minchit Sra??? & Who is Ekathotsarot???

I checked the Thai Cinema website, but, can't read Thai. Are they finished filming the movie yet? Is it true that Tony Jaa is in the movie also? When is the planned release date for Naresuan 3 in Thai cinemas?
Kdaw_Tmaw
This seems interesting. I just hope this time they will use real Khmer people or anyone else that can really speak Khmer to be in the movie. It'll be awful if it ended up like this one Thai movie posted by ah p'oun modernthai http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=210270. embarassedlaugh.gif
Zaw-Gyi
i was wondering when part 3 would come out . Stiill waiting for a proper DVD release with english subtitles
TeeNoi
Can't wait to see the last part of our greatest movie trilogy. beerchug.gif
Buddhalove
So King Naresuan father actually helped Burmese beat the cr@p out of Ayuttaya, then he was the traitor then. True ?
Zaw-Gyi
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Aug 14 2009, 01:22 PM) *
So King Naresuan father actually helped Burmese beat the cr@p out of Ayuttaya, then he was the traitor then. True ?


nah it was either diplomacy or siding with the guy with the bigger schlong
modernthai
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Aug 14 2009, 08:22 AM) *
So King Naresuan father actually helped Burmese beat the cr@p out of Ayuttaya, then he was the traitor then. True ?


LAOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again? you Lao cheap bastard don't have the great history like that and always fall under Siam, France, Japan, Vietnam ,China and Cambodia

Don't watch this sacred movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buddhalove
So you agree with me that King Naresuan father was a traitor. Chao Sayasetha of Laos Lanxang was trying to help Ayuttaya by attacking Pitsnouloke, so they won't be able to joint force with Burmese to attack Ayuttaya. Say thank you Siam. biggthumpup.gif
yuelight
I like Thai war movie. can i ask how many Nauresan movie are there?
modernthai
QUOTE (yuelight @ Aug 15 2009, 12:58 PM) *
I like Thai war movie. can i ask how many Nauresan movie are there?


In Naresuan Series, there are 2 movies already in DVD now

King Naresuan Part I: Hongsawadee's Hostage
King Naresuan Part II: Reclamation of Sovereignty

and the third part is gonna be out in the cinema in Thailand soon before it will release in DVD

and this is gonna be the last series of the great king of Naresuan
aithong
Isnt this movie being financed by somebody from the royal family and the current Thai governement to get Thai people to respect the Thai monarchy?
modernthai
QUOTE (aithong @ Aug 15 2009, 03:07 PM) *
Isnt this movie being financed by somebody from the royal family and the current Thai governement to get Thai people to respect the Thai monarchy?


It is funded by Thai government and Ministry of Culture
iamverypround
QUOTE (modernthai @ Aug 14 2009, 12:30 PM) *
LAOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again? you Lao cheap bastard don't have the great history like that and always fall under Siam, France, Japan, Vietnam ,China and Cambodia

Don't watch this sacred movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LAOOOOOO don't have TV.. how they watch this movie??????? embarassedlaugh.gif
Buddhalove
QUOTE (aithong @ Aug 15 2009, 02:07 PM) *
Isnt this movie being financed by somebody from the royal family and the current Thai governement to get Thai people to respect the Thai monarchy?


It was financed by the propaganda department and tax payers have to pay for it.
aithong
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Aug 15 2009, 07:28 PM) *
It was financed by the propaganda department and tax payers have to pay for it.


http://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.co...d-and-promoted/
mushrooms
Wow. They totally got Lovek art style wrong.
kevo
QUOTE (mushrooms @ Aug 16 2009, 06:29 PM) *
Wow. They totally got Lovek art style wrong.



I know right.......that picture & style is Angkor era & by the time of Lovek era ALOT has changed!!! First & foremost the Khmers have fully converted to Theravada Buddhism from Mahayana Buddhism since the Late Angkorean era. Therefore, many aspects of Cambodian culture & society also changed/ evolved is the better term. Such as fashion, art, architecture & etc.

Cambodia was entering a new era after Angkor & dealing with entirely new challenges. The sphere of influence was no longer centered around the Khmer Angkorean Empire anymore. From the Lovek era onward, the Khmer culture, fashion, art, architecture mirrored that of her now more powerful neighbor the Tai of Ayutthaya. But, the Khmers have also maintained remnants of their Ancestral Culture & adapted & adopted elements of her neighbors culture.

Lovek was still a formidable Kingdom & proved enough of a threat to Naresuan that he set out to sack the Kingdom & take her treasures!!!

The period after Angkor usually referred as CHAKTOMUK in Khmer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP60teHih_w

Neang Neat Movie (The best most professionally done Khmer historical movie of life post-Angkor/ Chaktomuk period)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDkWP05Z98M...2AB&index=0

Jao Puos Keng Kong (Snake King's Grandchild) also does a good job of showing life post-Angkor/ Chaktomuk period

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDkWP05Z98M...2AB&index=0
NoJek
QUOTE (mushrooms @ Aug 16 2009, 07:29 PM) *
Wow. They totally got Lovek art style wrong.

Calm Down! It's just a Movie about Siam at the Golden Age. I just never felt any positive from you, why is that, dude?
mushrooms
QUOTE (NoJek @ Aug 16 2009, 08:24 PM) *
Calm Down! It's just a Movie about Siam at the Golden Age. I just never felt any positive from you, why is that, dude?



Haha. Maybe you've only happen to come across my posts you deem negative.

I am not outraged, I am just pointing out something I noticed. Its not just your average historical film. This film is going to be seen by many people worldwide and I was just a little disappointed in how they portray Khmer art style. Nothing I want to rant over, most people don't even differentiate from such subtleties anyway.
yuelight
QUOTE (modernthai @ Aug 15 2009, 01:24 PM) *
In Naresuan Series, there are 2 movies already in DVD now

King Naresuan Part I: Hongsawadee's Hostage
King Naresuan Part II: Reclamation of Sovereignty

and the third part is gonna be out in the cinema in Thailand soon before it will release in DVD

and this is gonna be the last series of the great king of Naresuan


thanks! i just wait for it to release on youtube icon_smile.gif
Laoism
QUOTE (modernthai @ Aug 14 2009, 12:30 PM) *
LAOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again? you Lao cheap bastard don't have the great history like that and always fall under Siam, France, Japan, Vietnam ,China and Cambodia

Don't watch this sacred movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah? if Siamese are so Proud of their so call great history, how come they never make any movie about king Uthong giving up land to King Fah Ngoum?......... Oh I forgot king Uthong also mentioned he carried the same bloodline as King Fah Ngoum......King Fah Ngoum were Lao....LOL ekekekekekekekekkekekekekekkekekekekekekekekkekekeke.......

Pai kup Taxi gon na krup...
aithong
Anything prior to Chakri dynasty would've been part of the Lao history.
Nhoona
QUOTE (aithong @ Aug 21 2009, 01:14 PM) *
Anything prior to Chakri dynasty would've been part of the Lao history.


Yeah Lao was Sukhothai vassle state. Sukhothai language influenced Lao language.
Ayutthaya, Thonburi is king Taksin. Actually Lao was also under Siam during King Rama the fifth time too.
CantFadeLanxan
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Aug 21 2009, 02:24 PM) *
Yeah Lao was Sukhothai vassle state. Sukhothai language influenced Lao language.
Ayutthaya, Thonburi is king Taksin. Actually Lao was also under Siam during King Rama the fifth time too.


According to Nhoona, Tai influenced Lao. embarassedlaugh.gif E Jek Kee Ngoe LOL
Laoism
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Aug 21 2009, 01:24 PM) *
Yeah Lao was Sukhothai vassle state. Sukhothai language influenced Lao language.
Ayutthaya, Thonburi is king Taksin. Actually Lao was also under Siam during King Rama the fifth time too.



HAHAHA, Ramakham Heaung came from Nam U located at the heart of Xiengthong Lao kingdom to established Sukhothai, but you said Sukhothai language influenced Lao language....THIS IS LIKE SAYING YOUR GRANDMOTHER MIGRATED FROM CHINA TO THAILAND, BUT YET HER JEK LANGUAGE FROM SIAMLAND WENT BACK TO INFLUENCED CHINESE AT THE MAINLAND....LOL
PeaceMan
QUOTE (Laoism @ Aug 21 2009, 07:09 PM) *
HAHAHA, Ramakham Heaung came from Nam U located at the heart of Xiengthong Lao kingdom to established Sukhothai, but you said Sukhothai language influenced Lao language....THIS IS LIKE SAYING YOUR GRANDMOTHER MIGRATED FROM CHINA TO THAILAND, BUT YET HER JEK LANGUAGE FROM SIAMLAND WENT BACK TO INFLUENCED CHINESE AT THE MAINLAND....LOL

That's because King Rarmkhumheang is never Lao.....He said "Tai Sao U" not "Lao Sao U", He even record the Lao grup seperatly from the other "Tai" in the same paragraph.

I wonder when will you stop claiming my King as Lao... embarassedlaugh.gif
Laoism
QUOTE (PeaceMan @ Aug 21 2009, 07:41 PM) *
That's because King Rarmkhumheang is never Lao.....He said "Tai Sao U" not "Lao Sao U", He even record the Lao grup seperatly from the other "Tai" in the same paragraph.

I wonder when will you stop claiming my King as Lao... embarassedlaugh.gif


Tai sao U meaning Khon Sao U.....Lao PM MADE the claims official in 1943 to fire back at Thai faults teaching of history and agenda of eradicating of Lao race.... embarassedlaugh.gif


LOLOLOLOLOL
MovieGuide
This Legend of the King Naresuan won't finish in 3 parts. That mean the movie will end in part 4. heart.gif
HolyHuG
QUOTE (MovieGuide @ Aug 24 2009, 01:57 PM) *
This Legend of the King Naresuan won't finish in 3 parts. That mean the movie will end in part 4. heart.gif


Cool^^
Been waiting for a long, long time
I hope they'll release the last 2 parts one after another like they did with the first 2 parts
kevo
QUOTE (MovieGuide @ Aug 24 2009, 01:57 AM) *
This Legend of the King Naresuan won't finish in 3 parts. That mean the movie will end in part 4. heart.gif



Where did you get this piece of information from??? Can you link an article for us to read??? The director has said that Naresuan Movie was meant as a Trilogy (3 movies), he's ready to move on to a different project after finishing the 3rd Naresuan Movie.

Go to 4:50 of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmY9GsXYUq0...feature=related
sonofgunongjerai
Hail... Naresuan my King! Hail my Siam!

This banner is nice looking although this guy is not the real king, that still working, his hair looks alike...

I want to print it out as poster.

Nhoona
QUOTE (Laoism @ Aug 21 2009, 07:58 PM) *
Tai sao U meaning Khon Sao U.....Lao PM MADE the claims official in 1943 to fire back at Thai faults teaching of history and agenda of eradicating of Lao race.... embarassedlaugh.gif


LOLOLOLOLOL


Can you see? Actually Lao offspring themselves refuse to accept their ancestor identity to name themseleves Lao. King Ramkhamheang even wrote in the inscript almost 800 years ago that he called your ancestor "Lao" seperated from Tai. This is you should be pround of instead of claiming other Tais to be Lao. Be pround of Lao. understand?

QUOTE (sonofgunongjerai @ Aug 24 2009, 02:38 PM) *
Hail... Naresuan my King! Hail my Siam!

This banner is nice looking although this guy is not the real king, that still working, his hair looks alike...

I want to print it out as poster.


^
He will get married soon. Congrats to him.


http://www.manager.co.th/Entertainment/Vie...D=9520000096210
Nhoona
QUOTE (Laoism @ Aug 21 2009, 06:09 PM) *
HAHAHA, Ramakham Heaung came from Nam U located at the heart of Xiengthong Lao kingdom to established Sukhothai, but you said Sukhothai language influenced Lao language....THIS IS LIKE SAYING YOUR GRANDMOTHER MIGRATED FROM CHINA TO THAILAND, BUT YET HER JEK LANGUAGE FROM SIAMLAND WENT BACK TO INFLUENCED CHINESE AT THE MAINLAND....LOL

Talktohand.gif
It could be if Siam rule China. and Make Jek language from Siam an official language.
But
1. Sukhothai language (writing symbol)was different from ancient Lao language to begin with. Sure they may share some ancient Tai words because they all Tai language speaking people of all groups including Lao are related. Ancient Tai words are share among the Tais in China, Burma, Assam india laos and Thailand. it not exclusive used only in Laos.

Then ancient Lao language was influenced by Sukhothai language when Lanchang was under Sukhothai' s vassle state.
This applied to Southern part of Thailand that they adopted Sukhothai language when Sukhothai ruled over the land.


2. Nam U was migration route not original land they came from.
Laoism
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Aug 24 2009, 09:27 PM) *
Talktohand.gif
It could be if Siam rule China. and Make Jek language from Siam an official language.
But
1. Sukhothai language (writing symbol)was different from ancient Lao language to begin with. Sure they may share some ancient Tai words because they all Tai language speaking people of all groups including Lao are related. Ancient Tai words are share among the Tais in China, Burma, Assam india laos and Thailand. it not exclusive used only in Laos.

Then ancient Lao language was influenced by Sukhothai language when Lanchang was under Sukhothai' s vassle state.
This applied to Southern part of Thailand that they adopted Sukhothai language when Sukhothai ruled over the land.


2. Nam U was migration route not original land they came from.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY7zkF8SRqw

This is how most Tai speaks and it still closer to us Lao and I'm sure majority of Lao could understand this dialect more than Thai...sad to say but true....LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJ9WtPmjPU

And this is how Rama Khamheuang sounded like on his stone scripts, he used Bor, Gu, and Meung instead of Krup and maii...ALso Lao scripts are 113 years older than our nephew Rama Khamheaung....

Thank you Lanxan the great for sharing! http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=130977
Nhoona
QUOTE (Laoism @ Aug 24 2009, 09:06 PM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY7zkF8SRqw

This is how most Tai speaks and it still closer to us Lao and I'm sure majority of Lao could understand this dialect more than Thai...sad to say but true....LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJ9WtPmjPU

And this is how Rama Khamheuang sounded like on his stone scripts, he used Bor, Gu, and Meung instead of Krup and maii...ALso Lao scripts are 113 years older than our nephew Rama Khamheaung....

Thank you Lanxan the great for sharing! http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=130977


Here is the truth Lao people cant accept. Because you think that those words are exclusively Lao. Actually it is ancien Tai words. You still see those words used in Tai speking people in Yunnan China. They dont called themselves Lao.

Bor Gu and Mung are still used in everyday in our Thai speaking laguage but not anymore in writing language because it became less formal dueto language revolution.


Thai language today come far from original Tai. Let alone Sukhothai language 800 years ago anyway Thai language developted from Skhothai Language. We still have the evidiece of its revolution in each period till it come to be Thai language nowadays. Therefore Thai language may be less oriinal Tai than other Tai languages. The same as Thai people are less Tai than other Tai speaking people.
CantFadeLanxan
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Aug 24 2009, 10:23 PM) *
Here is the truth Lao people cant accept. Because you think that those words are exclusively Lao. Actually it is ancien Tai words. You still see those words used in Tai speking people in Yunnan China. They dont called themselves Lao.

Bor Gu and Mung are still used in everyday in our Thai speaking laguage but not anymore in writing language because it became less formal dueto language revolution.


Thai language today come far from original Tai. Let alone Sukhothai language 800 years ago anyway Thai language developted from Skhothai Language. We still have the evidiece of its revolution in each period till it come to be Thai language nowadays. Therefore Thai language may be less oriinal Tai than other Tai languages. The same as Thai people are less Tai than other Tai speaking people.


But the majority of Lao folks still understand Thai. LOL
sonofgunongjerai
QUOTE (Laoism @ Aug 25 2009, 09:06 AM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY7zkF8SRqw

This is how most Tai speaks and it still closer to us Lao and I'm sure majority of Lao could understand this dialect more than Thai...sad to say but true....LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJ9WtPmjPU


Very thick with accent... I can understand few Pali loanwords like Wattanatharm, Savatsadee, Pathet and other Tai words like Yindee, Bao Nee, Pi Nong, Dton, etc after I listen closely and of course for three times embarassedlaugh.gif . And it sounds like Cantonese in the Cantonese opera a little bit.
sonofgunongjerai
As far as I heard, Tai Ahom are now known as Assamese (Ahomese). I listen to their modern language, now had no trace of Tai at all. Their language sounds more like Benggali or Nepali to my ears. Guess that it is a language included under the group of Indo-Aryan (North Indian) not Tai-Kradai, might be because they're isolated from other Tai-Kradai speakers since 12th C and their kingdom has multi-ethnic groups so it's hard to classify them into Tai group and it seems like under Indo-Aryan language group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7upBdjFxZ_k...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TED2_pKSmwI...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgTtxQ0J_o...feature=related

They call their kingdom Mong Dun Shun Kham (Casket of Gold)... OK, Kham is the same as Tai language usage means Gold.
Laoism
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Aug 24 2009, 09:23 PM) *
Here is the truth Lao people cant accept. Because you think that those words are exclusively Lao. Actually it is ancien Tai words. You still see those words used in Tai speking people in Yunnan China. They dont called themselves Lao.

Bor Gu and Mung are still used in everyday in our Thai speaking laguage but not anymore in writing language because it became less formal dueto language revolution.


Thai language today come far from original Tai. Let alone Sukhothai language 800 years ago anyway Thai language developted from Skhothai Language. We still have the evidiece of its revolution in each period till it come to be Thai language nowadays. Therefore Thai language may be less oriinal Tai than other Tai languages. The same as Thai people are less Tai than other Tai speaking people.


Everyone has the right to called themselves Tai or what ever pleases them, after all Tai meaning FREE. As it was mentioned in "Expansion of Races from North to South" regarding what is now the province of Yünnan were the Shan or Ai-lao (modern Laos), who, forced by Mongol invasions, emigrated to the peninsula in the south and became the Siamese; and in Indo-China, not related to the Chinese. Denying mother race is like both you and Peaceman being a bastard got found on the corner of the market and being taking in by foreigner. Its important to realized that bastard or Tai have to come from somewhere from the beggining...Kao Jai? LOL

Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/cfu/mlc/mlc03.htm
Engsamnang
the lonvek king costume is not like that. The costume that the king worn is incorrect but it will be great is he was the king during angkor era. In lovek, the king worn the sampot in samloy style like woman not that pang again. THe men worn samloy cause following the style of javanese influenced. As lonvek era, the costume were several lovek influenced like Av Bupock from Baju krung, Av Kor trung from Baju maleyu, Av Pak from Javanese Kebaya, robai from Javanese dance headress etc. If in the film, khmer lady had long hair, it totally incorrect. Khmer ladies during lovek had a hair just lenght at neck and upper shoulder only. See Tum Teav film, it were a lot of correct at lovek clothing.
here are some photo from Lovek era clothing:



(the king and the noblemen is worn like that in Lovek)
khunshaw
QUOTE (kevo @ Aug 13 2009, 07:12 PM) *
Sorry, excuse my ignorance..........who is Minchit Sra??? & Who is Ekathotsarot???

I checked the Thai Cinema website, but, can't read Thai. Are they finished filming the movie yet? Is it true that Tony Jaa is in the movie also? When is the planned release date for Naresuan 3 in Thai cinemas?

Ekathotsarot was King Naresuan's younger brother. His nickname is white prince while King Naresuan is dark prince. Probably white/dark refer to skin tone. Prince Ekathosarot became king after King Naresuan died while he was invading Burma.

Minchit Sra was the Burmese crown prince who was killed by King Naresuan n in personal combat on elephant back in Nong Sarai (Suphanburi, Thailand).
Manleow
Tony Jaa should play the part of King Naresuan since he is dark.....
LiaoFyhun
I don't watch Thai Gay porno movies and they only serve Fat white Farang and a 16 year old ThaiJek boys for anals. asskick.gif shrug.gif
bankchabi
ภาคนี้ภาคจบใช่ป่าว beerchug.gif
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (bankchabi @ Nov 2 2009, 07:29 PM) *
ภาคนี้ภาคจบใช่ป่าว beerchug.gif

AGAIN! embarassedlaugh.gif I don't watch Thai Gay porno movies and they only serve Fat white Farang and a 16 year old ThaiJek boys for anals.
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