http://www.examiner.com/x-26647-Asia-Trave...ust-as-expected


"Thailand's options in getting Thaksin extradited from Cambodia are actually quite limited. There's talk of cancelling even more agreements with Cambodia (Thailand already cancelled a maritime agreement earlier in the week) which, according to several Asian analysts is only going to damage Thailand and deter foreign investment. After all, who wants to invest money in a country that goes back on its word every time you do something they don't like?"

Thai TV has also been reporting the Thai government is considering approaching Interpol for help. Very few westerners however understand what Thailand hopes to achieve by this. In fact, it shows Thailand's ignorance over how Interpol works as Interpol is not an agency that is going to help one government pit itself against another in order to arrest an exiled Prime Minister, who many in Thailand feel was kicked out by the military coup illegally. The Cambodian President himself is saying Thaksin's conviction on corruption charges is nothing more than politically motivated, and many in Thailand agree with him

Most westerner analysts also think, not only is it a huge mistake for Thailand to be pushing the issue with Cambodia, they also believe it will further damage Thailand's economy and investment opportunities. With the Thai government constantly giving Thaksin more and more air time and making themselves look increasingly weak and ineffective, Thaksin is winning and they are losing. A better strategy would have been to just keep their mouths shut and pretend Thaksin doesn't even exist. All this chest beating though is playing right into Thaksin's hands, and he's loving every minute of it

After all, who is going to take a Thai government seriously who, on one hand cancels a maritime treaty they had with Cambodia and, on the other hand, tells Cambodia "hey, we have an extradition treaty with you. Honor it". Yep. That's going to happen

Currently Thailand is a land of political leaders that are fools! All of this days before the ASEAN-US summit of Asian leaders and Obama that will be held in Singapore.


Anyways, here's Cambodia's letter to Thai Embassy in respond to Thailand's request to extradite Mr. Thaksin. I love how blunt the letter is regard Cambodia's stance on the issue.

One of their former PM, Samak, has said to all those PAD rioters, "Do you want to embarrass the country?" (Something like that I think) ... and he was right.

That was funny how they sought out interpol thinking that they are mercenaries working pro bono.

We know that your scrum leaders will refuse this. It just the official process to ensure that your goverment want to act as scrum. And about ASEAN do you think Cambodia is more influence than Thai?

Your goverment talk big act big ,your soldier act tough ,but the best they can do is kill your own people like in late 70s.

Thailand sends a letter and Cambodia sends one back stamped with a rejection. I'm figuring that rejection must be hard for you because you can't always get what you want, scrum.

Also, Thailand is losing credibility in ASEAN, while Cambodia is gaining so much media attention in Thailand. Hun Sen is loving this. He's going to breed Thaksin and use him when he gains power from Thailand again. If Hun Sen can succeed in creating a puppet, then he will gain so much leverage that not only will it pissed off people like you, but it will also piss the hell outta Hanoi.

And seriously...

"Your goverment talk big act big ,your soldier act tough ,but the best they can do is kill your own people like in late 70s."

You are really pathetic and very desperate to come up with such hasty words, loser.

I completely agree with you. If Hun Sen can get Thailand to call for a general election and if he can get the Puea Thai Party, the current opposition party of Abhisit's government that is pro-Thaksin, to win the election then Cambodia will have so much leverage in the decisions made in Bangkok.

I think this is a very bright ideal from Mr. Hun Sen. If Cambodia have really good relationship with the future leaders of Thailand then that will mean hell for the Vietnamese. Hun Sen will back stab the Viets like he did the Khmer Rouge in the late 70's and onward. It would mean less reliance on Hanoi and more isolation of the Vietnamese people.

Your country might be really proud of your so-called "democracy" rite?

Then please consider this:

1. You ousted a PM because he sold his company to a foreign investment
2. You ousted a PM because he appears on TV screen for a "food show"
3. You ousted a PM because he joins hand with your neighbor to enlist a temple, which you singly claimed to be your owned when the world decided it is not long ago.
4. You appointed someone as your minister because he helps rally protesters to close down an airport.
5. You become PM because you have done the above things...

Congratulation to the world best "democracy" country...

I just hope Hun Sen is really smart and can pull this off.




Why must you b!tch slap him like that? The guy has already suffered from a rejection and that hasn't done him any good either.

Yes use Vietnam comunist troop against Khmer troop sound very smart ,but what you guys pay for that?


Hunsen has to give every things that Vietnam want including the land on the east side border.That why he drag attention to the west side



1) Its state enterprise not his own business. And some law issue to benefit his own business

Corruption/conflict of interests- Changed concessions on mobile phone business as excise tax
- Created satellite business to gain promotion from Board of Investment
- Corruption at Suvarnabhumi Airport and the purchase of CTX bomb detection scanners
- Corruption in the construction of railway Airport Link
- Lack of transparency in privatisation of state enterprises
- Media interference
2) Samak just out because he used violent way to dissolve the mob
But you would think its OK since your Hunsen goverment do this

3) The PM is the one who know many secret info ,and his act to help Cambodia by giving those info.That why We call him KBOT
4) The party who win no1 Vote cant form the goverment so its normal for the secound one to form the goverment with some help of Khmer low land politician in ฺีBurirum province of Thailand Mr Naywin


5) The Thai fugitive got some help from Cambodian goverment where as the Khmer Krom monk who fight for your own people in Vietnam sent back to be punish in Vietnam. It so double standard.As I mention before Khmer goverment cant say no when Vietnam want some things. Goodluck Cambodia

Hun Sen knows his position when dealing with the Viets. He was put into power by them and they were the only ally he had whether he liked it or not. Now Hun Sen sees an oppurtunity and is taking advantage of it. Once Thaksin regain power from Thailand, Hun Sen will no longer need Hanoi, and as a matter of fact, he might even harass Hanoi if they plan to topple him.

It's okay dude. I can understand why you are so totally freaked out by the whole ordeal. You just don't like seeing Cambodia in succeeding. But let me remind you that both Hun Sen and Thaksin are only doing whats best for their country and the whole issue is about economic growth, so relax and go get some sleep.

i agree thais are just jealous of cambodia in every way. oh man i can't still believe they try to claim preah vihear as their temple. Sad thailand.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=49234

To counter Bangkok’s current charges that Phnom Penh is interfering in Thailand’s internal politics and judicial system by rolling out the welcome mat for Thaksin, Hun Sen retorts by reminding the Thais about the hospitality they offered to Khmer Rouge leaders like Khieu Samphan and Nuon Chea, now about to face justice in a United Nations war crimes tribunal.

"The Thai judiciary has not much value to be respected," Hun Sen said during his weekend encounter with Cambodian journalists. "Khmer Rouge leaders Khieu Samphan and Nuon Chea were living in Thailand for years. This was a violation of international law that Thailand had signed."

"Hun Sen is absolutely correct," said Tom Fawthrop, co-author of ‘Getting away with Genocide? Elusive Justice and the Khmer Rouge Tribunal’. "In fact after 1979, when the Khmer Rouge were driven out of Cambodia by Vietnam, (Khmer Rouge leader) Pol Pot and other leaders all fled to Thailand."

"The Khmer Rouge’s fight to regain power was aided by logistics and weapons that flowed through Thailand, even tanks," Fawthrop, a regional expert who spends time in Phnom Penh, told IPS. "The Thais violated the international law after the 1991 Paris peace accord by letting the Khmer Rouge operate along its border, which was not the case along the Vietnamese and Laotian borders."

Hun Sen’s current anti-Abhisit rhetoric may not be the isolated views of Cambodia’s leader but may find resonance among its people, added Fawthrop. "The Thai-Cambodian relationship has to be looked at in a historical context. The Cambodians feel a huge sense of grievance."

This just keeps getting more interesting...

Oh, why most of your comment are Vietnamese-related? Where are the arguments about the mandate and righteousness of your government? What happen to the popular vote, and why the parliament is always amending its constitutions. I think you might be too lost in this battle that you consider Vietnam as your opponent.

No, open your eyes dude... try to direct your words here... we are listening to whatever you say.

But I'm gonna tell you this...

It has been centuries that leaders change their attitude toward certain figures. But Cambodia never changes. The PM was friend to Thaskin even when he was the PM, and even when he is ousted, the PM is still calling him friend. Unlike many other leaders who always think of their political advantage first. Now look at us, we can stand alone against you, but we never abandon our friends. We have our rights to judge and defend. If the current Thai government is a truthful one, then why not run another election? Why Abhi$hit is hiding in his office, always try to re-direct questions about elections like you did now... oh! I think maybe Thai people are the same, they avoid truth. Like they avoid truth that Preah Vihear belongs to Cambodia, so as many other areas where they illegally taken. They avoid truth that Thaksin was the one who made the Thai economy booms and become one of the economic Tiger, by making political excuses that Thaksin was involved in as many corruptions scandals as possible. But this is not Cambodian way. Friend is friend, enemy is enemy.

I know that there is a certain person in your country who is fear most of losing his power, and is trying every ways to retain it, even by using his own people.

If we can kill 2 mil people, don't you think we can't sink your home soil to the deep of the ocean?

Wow I am amazed by ur comment, thais are like that, trust me they love to avoid the truth. Did u no they have identity crisis? Well they are. they try to steal from every culture to put as their own

Nikki, that was deep (no pun intended), but the truth will only make some Thai members go hysterical and resort to saying bad things about us. Have you read some of the threads in Thai Chat similar to this? They put us down like we are lower than them and that's there only answer to everything.

Now I feel sorry for some of them because they are hopeless.

No matter how much bad things they mad about us, they should also look after their back as well.

Now the world begins to see the evil side of their country, and not for long they will re-consider plans related to development and investment in their countries.

Like our PM said, to a country who annul every agreements by themselves because of their personal views, can not be trusted. International Relation is more complex than this, and to annul an agreement required more than a political mean to do so. Now Abhi$hit who claimed himself as an International Student from England, committed such acts, didn't he think how much damage he caused to his University? Did his university teach him to do so? Teach him that Parliamentary vote is more effective than popular vote? Is that the Democracy taught at his university? Now, the world will look into every actions of his, and judge them carefully because in the future, Thailand must explains to some degree of questions concerning their personal acts without bilateral agreements.

gay Thailand is losing the battle

hahaha. these stupid khmers know how to comfort each other

Only K Abhisit, he has to explain long why he can come to be PM of Thailand

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Want me to summarize what and why Viet has some things to do with this Nikkie?
1) Because this Thai Khmer conflict is just happen to be a big news to drag attention from the East side border to the West side border
2) While your PM ignore Thai judicial system to safe Thai fugitive badly ,he become sissy say yes to Viet master and throw the Khmer Krom Monk to get panalty in Vietnam luckily he can escape.



Conflict interrest is a kind of Coruption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest
If be friend with leader or priministor of a country will give some one special righful ,I would call that country a Corupt country.

Hunsen made his decision on his own rule and break an agreement between 2 country for his own benefit. So that you can has Thaksin as the economic cousellor but any agreement Thaksin made during the time like MOU has to be cancelled. Because it will benefit to Thaksin friend not for Thai......


Enemy?
So this mean MR Thaksin is already betray the Thai and working with Cambodia and benefit to Cambodia. I dont think that still as many Thai as would support him for his action.



Yeah this is what Hunsen do on west border to hide what happen on the east side border.....

Sorry, my English is not as good as you AEROFORCE, but my heart is firm and for those words you are saying, I feel that you are already taken the arguments far from its original setting.

I think rite now, you are no more but another trolls, because I used to see the nice side of you and I used to ask you for some helps. But rite now, you have been making alot of flaming comments toward us here.

Eventhough the friendship of HS and Thaksin are of leader's level, but what the people really pissed of about Thai is actually Mr.Abhi$hit, not the whole nation. Thai people are still doing business here and there in Cambodia, eventhough the sign of closing down the border is still vague. However, it was Mr. Abhi$hit who brought this tension up, to have you guys amplify them to this level.

Leave alone Vietnam, because you don't want them to have ticket to join this battle of words. But if you want, then AF would be become more and more annoying because there are people who keep making offensive comments. I don't blame all of you here, because everyone loves their home country and the love is so strong that everyone is ready to die for me.

But you can have your time in the world for posting such comments, dragging attention into any directions you want, but all the decision-making process is laid in the hands of the leaders. Thus, all these comments were just for a show, but nothing would be taken into account.

I will not make any arguments with you anymore, because I see no point in it. I am always think Thailand was the leader in ASEAN cause, but seeing your comments in Khmer chat right make me feel regret about it. But I won't abandon AC blog, because ASEAN won't be budge by this conflict.

For my Khmer fellows, you have your freedom of speech, but do live for offend others so that we can have a good night sleep? I don't do this for living, sorry...

Nikkie_nid the lady,

If you don't know who started the flame, ask the Khmer name Mc "Guyer".
This khmers jumped to the Thai forum and messed up with them, now you are begging for mercy for them. Funny, huh?

McGuyer, if you want my mercy, you come and confirm to this lady that you want to beg for mercy from me and I will forgive you for everything you did.





Lady, let me know what Abhisit did that made you pissed off?




Who care vietnamese?
They don't mess up with the Thais then I don't touch them





Feel whatever you feel, lady.
The Khmers don't feel $hit about what you feel.
Otherwise, their forum will not be a Khmer bashing forum like this.



Lady, most Khmers here in this forum are nice, and I regret for them.
This is the consequence of some stupod khmers like Guyer, IamKhmer.
You ask them to knee down and apologise me and everything will be back to normal. you understand?

When I am at your ages my english is not better than you. I have to thanks for the straightforward and warm opinion from you. The reason I am here is just because of Mr Thaksin just like other Thais. Its just purely politic ,like your people not like Mr Abhisit because what he did to bash Hunsen back...

Lets see what made us feel like this way,its MEDIA or news that tried to provoke people. And this news are all around from Taxi radio to the noodle hawker ( Radna ,Horfun)



Ok now I not gonna turn on the radio and listen to these news it made me headache. On AF I will associate more on food or music thread instead

Well! I'm sure both sides of us (Thai and Khmer) are having headaches because we are driven by the prospect of the countries, and you are rite about the media.

Actually, in my opinion, at the moment, the ASEAN movement was on the right track a few years ago, we could see light and hope about the real community for the projects. But to be honest, both countries has made some obstacles for the development now. But ASEAN is still ASEAN, and like I said, they won't budge just because of us. That is why they have been staying silent for the entire time.

Dear Mr. Sleepless

What I really love about you is that your comments are totally funny.

But, to say who starts it, WHO REALLY STARTS IT... it dates back into those days when AF was created. I could not remember well, but it seems the real spamming of flaming culture just starts maybe 3 years ago, because I noticed before that the forum use to be quite peaceful.

Anyway, I think its alright to call me a lady, when I'm not. )

Peace out

Hahaha! He's always saying mcguyer this and mcguyer that. The idiot is really pissed off and he smells like it too.

I guess Thailand really is losing the battle.

I can't help myself from laughing. This piece of $hit stupid idiot Thai from Bangkok is trying way too hard to get my attention! He quoted me in most of his posts. I guess I really pissed him off to the point where he has to flame the whole Khmer Chat!

If you notice all my postings in the Thai chat, they are all in the single thread that I made and nothing more, well maybe one or two here and there but that's it. I don't go flaming other threads unless they are in the Khmer Chat. What a stupid idiot Thai Loser!!!!!

Hey stupid piece of $hit idiot Thai that hires farangs in Bangkok! If you really want my attention then you should protest with all your stupid idiot PAD/Yellow Shirt Thai supporters in Bangkok and please, make a sign that says you are from AF forum so maybe this time Cambodia can supply something more powerful than a M-79 grenade that was used a few days ago. Maybe an RPG? Or maybe something stronger like a 122 mm Grad rocket? Then Thailand would be a better place if Cambodia helped the Red Shirts get rid of the stupid idiot trash Thais like you.

Anyways, you are not even worth my time. You are not even worth a penny so why should I even give you my "2 cents". You are nothing more than a stupid trash idiot Thai from Bangkok so I will not respond to you again!

hehe Nikkie_nid,

I am glad that you like my Khmer bashing.

But I am kind of bored now posting here, nothing new from your side.

Besides, just for your the sake of good relationship between you and airforce1, I will stop bashing Khmer within 24 hours ..

And sorry if you are not a lady, I thought you were one.

Don't worry, you are not the first one, and it was my fault that I put this confusing SN myself.

what a true dumb f@g.
you think everything you say is right, because you are so stubborn.
only think your country is right so everyone that is wrong has to kneel down to a dumb b!tch like you.
b!tch pleasee!

DUDE
WTF !

Does that make sense ?

don't be surprise if some of "you" can't log on again or have to make a new account! you know who you are

Are you talking about me?

Again, this topic is about Thailand.
And although it's in Khmer chat, I assume that you don't disallow Thai member to defend their country here, right?

It can be anybody, why do you think its you? did you do something wrong and you know you're guilty?lol. why are you asking a silly question. Just don't whine when you feel the heat getting hotter because you are corner by something you never heard before, like truth. I didn't know thai member like to bud in into other people conversation. But be my guess

I did nothing wrong and I don't have to worry? Did you see me worry?

And oh, you mean you can't just come and say something in the forum while other people are talking together?
This is a forum, not a private chat room, Maverick.
We can post wherever we think we have something we can share.

be my guess

What a polite and diplomatic way of saying fukk off by Cambodia! LOL! That last sentence was especially hillarious.

Savan, you should think before you comment.
If this letter is to be sent to Laos PM, is it still considered polite and hiilarious to you?
Hun Sen intentionally intervened in Thailand's internal affair.
He can appoint any body to be his advisor, but he chose to appoint Thailand's mosted wanted criminal.
And you call this polite and diplomatic?

Excuse me? Please don't talk to me like that.

Anyway, if you had used you head (just returning the favor), you would've realized that I was being sarcastic especially since I did mention that that was Cambodia's way of saying "fukk off".

this guy like to blame other people for his country problem. His country aint got balls, if they do come and get thaksin