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k0r34n jjashik
Man these seriously are IPod Killers. I have the H320.. not very pretty.. but TONS more features than the IPoo. The H10's (In my sig) are sexy...

Anyways.. For our friends in Korea, do any of you own an IRiver? The support is SOOO much better. They only sell the LCD Remote in Korea, have H320 firmware all the way up to 1.28 while us Americans are stuck with 1.02, and bunch of more stuff.
ham_let
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can't fucking afford. icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif


haha. one day. when they become cheap.
sirgika
off topic, but how the hell did you get to say "fu-k" completely?
RentonWong
March 2, 2005 4:46 PM PST
Liberty, fraternity and 20GB of MP3s
If porn stars won't do the job, maybe patriotism will.

That appears to be the thinking at South Korean gadget maker ReignCom, the company behind the iRiver brand of digital music players. The company ran newspaper ads this week suggesting it was a slam against Korean pride for anyone there to buy an iPod.

According to the newspaper Chosun Ilbo, the ads ran on March 1, Independence Movement Day, when the country celebrates its liberation from Japanese occupation.

The ads featured a large image of the South Korean flag and text reminiscent of World War II propaganda posters.



"U.S. firms are sweeping up most of the world's HDD- (hard-disk drive) type MP3 player market," the ad reads. "As a sovereign MP3 state, we could not simply sit back and watch."

"After spending countless nights in the research room, we've finally produced a precious son for the world market," the call to arms continues. "There will be many difficulties, but we are not afraid. We are the descendents of martyrs who braved bullets and swords to bring about independence."

An unnamed ReignCom representative told the newspaper that recent iPod price cuts are part of Apple's "offensive to kill local MP3 manufacturers." Apple has dominated the market for hard drive-based music players since the iPod's inception, despite fresh competition from manufacturers such as iRiver and Singapore's Creative Technologies.

ReignCom previously distinguished itself in the advertising world by hiring adult-entertainment star Jenna Jameson to hawk its portable video players.

Posted by David Becker

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MP3 Maker Hoists Taegukgi in Battle with Apple
Apple Computer’s iPod Mini (top) and iPod shuffle, a flash memory MP3 player

What's Hot and What's Not in the MP3 Market
Pragmatic MP3 Manufacturer Hires Porn Starlet
Reigncom Challenges Apple for Top Spot in MP3 Player Market
Samsung in Desperate Bid for MP3 Clout
As Apple Korea hits the market with new products and drastically slashed prices, local firms are busy formulating responses including “patriotic” marketing. In a newspaper advertisement marking the March 1 Independence Movement Day on Tuesday, Reigncom asks, “Does shouting ‘mansei’ buck-naked make Korea independent? U.S. firms are sweeping up most of the world’s HDD-type MP3 player market... As a sovereign MP3 state, we could not simply sit back and watch.”

Under the image of a Korean flag, it goes on, “After spending countless nights in the research room, we’ve finally produced a precious son for the world market... There will be many difficulties, but we are not afraid.” Reigncom declared itself determined to face Apple’s offensive, saying, “We are the descendents of martyrs who braved bullets and swords to bring about independence to the cry of ‘mansei.'”

“Apple has stepped up an offensive to kill local MP3 manufacturers," a Reigncom official said. "So we placed the advertisement to coincide with March 1 Independence Movement Day.”

Apple, which dominates the world HDD-type MP3 player market, has been aggressively marketing new MP3 models like its 4GB and 6GB “iPod Mini” and 30GB and 60GB “iPod Photo” and slashing prices at the same time.

The second-generation 4GB iPod Mini’s battery life has increased from eight hours to 18, but the price has gone down from W341,000 (US$340) to W230,000. However, local companies claim the price drop isn’t all that dramatic, as Apple has left some accessories like adapters and connection cables out of its basic package. Still, they are palpably nervous. “Apple has started a large-scale price war, but we have no effective response," an industry insider said. "Big companies like Samsung Electronics and LGE could fend off Apple’s offensive, but small and medium-sized companies will be in trouble if the situation continues.”

Reigncom, for one, responded with a price cut for its own flash memory-type products last month, and is said to be contemplating whether to slash prices for HDD-type players in the first half of the year. Cowon Systems, too, cut prices for flash memory players from this month, and Mpio did the same. But local companies are struggling to keep up with Apple's price cuts on HDD products.

(englishnews@chosun.com )
Overmind
Using nationalism to sell their products.. that's just lame.
Azncrombieguy
QUOTE (k0r34n jjashik @ Aug 6 2005, 08:43 PM)
Man these seriously are IPod Killers. I have the H320.. not very pretty.. but TONS more features than the IPoo. The H10's (In my sig) are sexy...

Anyways.. For our friends in Korea, do any of you own an IRiver? The support is SOOO much better. They only sell the LCD Remote in Korea, have H320 firmware all the way up to 1.28 while us Americans are stuck with 1.02, and bunch of more stuff.
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finally!! someone agrees with me! i hate ipods with a passion!!! im sorry to all you ipod owners out there but everytime i see someone with an ipod i automatically think "lemming." i dont hate apple as i own a powerbook, i had bad experiences with the 3rd gen ipods. imagine 3 ipods in 3 days? all defective right out of the box, from different stores.

i am glad to say that i am a proud owner of an irver ihp-120. its a yr old and beat up but it still works. my next mp3 player will definately be another iriver. unless they have cell phones with 20gigs or more of storage
kunomchu
iPOD pwns j0000000000000 00 000 000
k0r34n jjashik
please tell me how the Ipod is better.. Do the normal or mini have a color screen? Nope.. just the IPod Photo.. And its..how much? 400 dollars? However, the Ipod photo doesnt even support video playback. Another complaint... what the hell is upwith the sound quality of the Ipod. Its HORRIBLE.. especially compared to the Irivers.

As for the whole nationalism thing stated above.. I didn't even know Iriver was a korean product till a week after I had mine. I mean it had Made in China on the back...
kunomchu
My ipod is made in china. As for why ipod is better. my ipod doesn't focus on graphics or video playback. Its a music player nice and simple. It cost me only 250 for my ipod and it was well spent. :P
ksurf3rgrl
they're both great alright, regardless of where it's made from Talktohand.gif

anyway, I would buy one, but sadly.. I barely use my mp3 player at home, it just sits there like an ornament embarassedlaugh.gif2 so maybe I shouldn't. But yeah the quality sounds awesome.
kunomchu
QUOTE (ksurf3rgrl @ Aug 7 2005, 01:33 AM)
they're both great alright, regardless of where it's made from Talktohand.gif

anyway, I would buy one, but sadly.. I barely use my mp3 player at home, it just sits there like an ornament embarassedlaugh.gif2 so maybe I shouldn't.  But yeah the quality sounds awesome.
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ksruf3rgrl teach me how to surf and i'll let you borrow my ipod. love2.gif biggrin.gif
Overmind
QUOTE (kunomchu @ Aug 7 2005, 01:34 AM)
QUOTE (ksurf3rgrl @ Aug 7 2005, 01:33 AM)
they're both great alright, regardless of where it's made from Talktohand.gif

anyway, I would buy one, but sadly.. I barely use my mp3 player at home, it just sits there like an ornament embarassedlaugh.gif2 so maybe I shouldn't.  But yeah the quality sounds awesome.
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ksruf3rgrl teach me how to surf and i'll let you borrow my ipod. love2.gif biggrin.gif
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If she would teach me how to surf in her swimsuit, I'll BUY her an Ipod. embarassedlaugh.gif2
k0r34n jjashik
eyeyey she's a mod.. no hitting on the mod!

Yeah.. but my IRiver's a better music player in that it has better sound quality and support for many more music formats... plus has multimedia functions. Oh and it cost me 210 dollars for 20 gigs.

Hey peeps above.. H10's are going for $220 for 5 gigs and $290 for 20 gigs

Edit: Oh CRAP I found a couple 20 gig h10's for 230!
azndood
QUOTE (Overmind @ Aug 6 2005, 06:38 PM)
Using nationalism to sell their products.. that's just lame.
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lol and americans dont do it as well?
at least for koreans it works
its us versus the world

how much is iriver btw
kunomchu
lol don't you guys love these american companies. They think ppl will buy their expensive $hit just because it says in BOLD INK MADE IN AMERICA.
k0r34n jjashik
QUOTE (azndood @ Aug 7 2005, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Overmind @ Aug 6 2005, 06:38 PM)
Using nationalism to sell their products.. that's just lame.
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lol and americans dont do it as well?
at least for koreans it works
its us versus the world

how much is iriver btw
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the flash products are in the $100's
the h300 series are anywhere from $320-$400 for the 20 gig to 40 gig.
the h10's go from $310-400 for 5gigs to 20 gigs.
the pmp's (portable media players... extremely sexy and nice) go for $400-600
kunomchu
Im just curious why the name iriver? isn't that just copied from ipod. couldn't they find something more original?
Overmind
QUOTE (kunomchu @ Aug 7 2005, 02:40 AM)
Im just curious why the name iriver? isn't that just copied from ipod. couldn't they find something more original?
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I'm not sure which came first, but the company iRiver was founded in 1999, and the first iPod was released in 2001.
madmagazine
I have and Iriver and currently living in korea.
one day I went to the IRiver after service center
because there was a problem with my player
It was about lunch time when I went there
so they provided me with a lunch(sandwiche&drink) while I was to wait for my player to be fixed.
It was free of charge, including the food^^
RentonWong
QUOTE (k0r34n jjashik @ Aug 7 2005, 01:20 AM)
please tell me how the Ipod is better.. Do the normal or mini have a color screen? Nope.. just the IPod Photo.. And its..how much? 400 dollars? However, the Ipod photo doesnt even support video playback. Another complaint... what the hell is upwith the sound quality of the Ipod. Its HORRIBLE.. especially compared to the Irivers.

As for the whole nationalism thing stated above.. I didn't even know Iriver was a korean product till a week after I had mine. I mean it had Made in China on the back...
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And you call yourself Korean? How the heck can you not know iRivers are Korean?! I bet you didnt even know KIA was Korean as well!!! Azn Pryde! Power to the culturally retarded Aznz!!! embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 thumbsdown.gif
azndood
rentonwong get owned by korea look at his sig
hyundai threatens him
RentonWong
lol. Hyundai TVs arent that good. Only retarded Azns threaten me. kekekeke

Oh and BTW, Hyundai TVs are sold in Wal-Marts...that by itself tells you everything you need to know about Hyundai TVs...kekekekeke
azndood
sony sells at wal-mart, ipod sells at walmarts,
wal-mart isnt a swapmeet $hittard wal-mart
has some good stuff
and recently wal-mart has been putting private specialized vendors
out of business so what the fu-k are u exactly talking about
RentonWong
your freestyle sux
wal-mart is $hit
its got nothing on Target
the stores are a dump
their workers are dumb
just like some Azns
specialized vendors aint got
nothin on Target
iRivers are crap
dats why its a Wal-Mart
cheapo goods sold at the Mart
so normal mom an pop store can die
die die die like Mexicans in a labor riot
prices are low and workers be dumb
Wal-Mart cheapens da community

ya hear?
zxcv
hey don't bash the Hyundai name. They don't only make cars. You know they have the #1 shipbuilding business in the world. They also makes chips under the name Hynix. Hynix is like #3 after Samsung.

I think Hyundai cars are kinda pretty. I like their SUVs.

BTW, you're Chinese, no?
RentonWong
If I dont bash Hyundai, whos gonna slam Daewoo?

I think Daewoos are sexy. I would flip em if they had the "goods"...

I aint Chinese, you gotta learn Taiwanese!
zxcv
Daewoo went bankrupt. No longer a chaebol. I don't get what you're trying to say.
RentonWong
So I guess you will be the one slamming Daewoo...

Chaebols are cool, they beat up Korean workers who dont know their place so we can all buy cheap and mediocre products made in South Corea.

My signature still stands...Hyundais suck.
zxcv
Cheap mediocre? Samsung is cheap, mediocre? You've gotta be kidding me.

As for Hyundai, I'd say they are one of the foremost companies in the world. They're #1 in shipbuilding--a billion dollar company.
They're also like #3 in chips -- again a billion dollar company.
I like their cars too. They're designs classy.

I see they're branching into tvs as well I--I think it will go nicely with they're memory chip industry.

Obviously you've got no idea what you're talking about. So shut up.
sirgika
QUOTE (azndood @ Aug 7 2005, 01:44 PM)
sony sells at wal-mart, ipod sells at walmarts,
wal-mart isnt a swapmeet $hittard wal-mart
has some good stuff
and recently wal-mart has been putting private specialized vendors
out of business so what the fu-k are u exactly talking about
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Correction: Sony sells their low-end stuff at Wal-Mart, so I doubt I'll ever see a Plasma TV there. Also, IPods aren't high tech items.
RentonWong
Unlike Hyundai, Samsung beats up workers who are making substandard goods. Also their Auto division is owned by the French. kekekeke.

Nonetheless, different chaebols beat their workers differently so get the desired results. Some of them even bribe government officials to overlook these abuses.
zxcv
I repeat Hyundai does not make substandard goods. Your signature is completely laughable

Their shipbuilding is #1. I read an article in the Times, where they say that companies are lining up on queues for Hyundai ships. 'coz they make'em so well. Their sales in ships (only) last year was $8.5 billion
RentonWong
Who cares about their Shipbuilding. This forum isnt about Shipbuilding pryde in Corea.

The fact is Hyundai TVs are still funny and their cars are abominations regardless of "quality".

That signature is real and Hyundai does beat their workers. They also paid Kim Jong Il trillions of Won to get him to visit Seoul for Corea pryde. My signature speaks the truth, it is just unfortunate that you let Corean pryde get in the way.
Jizzah
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 7 2005, 01:30 PM)
Only retarded Azns threaten me. kekekeke


So you're threatened by yourself?
RentonWong
You're not making sense. I am threatned by retarded Azns who think they are smart@sses, such as yourself.

Too much Corean Pryde can be bad for your health.
Jizzah
The sad thing is that RentonWong is probably the "smart" one in his Taiwanese family. embarassedlaugh.gif
zxcv
So you know any other company that branaches off into other industries and still is top tier in anything they dip their hand into. As for plasma & LCD, still young, so why with no brand yet dominating, so why shouldn't they branch out know, and then get name recognition? I think it's pretty smart.

Hyundai cars are not abomination. Where I always see a Hyundai car parked on like every block. People are obviously lapping them up.

BTW the founder of Hyundai was North Korean, which is why you have they always trying to engage the North.

You're just so ignorant.
RentonWong
I know Taiwanese are dumb. We are ashamed of being Chinese, just like Koreans are ashamed of Andre Kim, the queer fashion designer, and Ahn Chung-Gun, the Korean terrorist.
Jizzah
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 7 2005, 02:43 PM)
I know Taiwanese are dumb. 


I'm going to make this my new sig. You mind? embarassedlaugh.gif
RentonWong
No problem. Taiwanese are dumb because they are ashamed of being Chinese and worship Japanese War Criminals.
channel_1029
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 7 2005, 03:43 PM)
I know Taiwanese are dumb.  We are ashamed of being Chinese, just like Koreans are ashamed of Andre Kim, the queer fashion designer, and Ahn Chung-Gun, the Korean terrorist.
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ru taiwanese??
RentonWong
Im not Taiwanese.
azndood
...do u live inthe US? im sure ur @$$ would have gotten jumped by now
acting like a metrosexual chinese bobmarley with a kekeke......who tries to freestyle
kpjoon
Koreans invented the MP3 player
iRIVERS came out way before iPODS
iPOD came up with a unique design of MP3 players and basically made MP3 players famous in America
iRIVER designed their own MP3 to look like the iPOD so they can sell better.

It's called business.
Companies get competitive with each other.
RentonWong
QUOTE (azndood @ Aug 7 2005, 03:10 PM)
...do u live inthe US? im sure ur @$$ would have gotten jumped by now
acting like a metrosexual chinese bobmarley with a kekeke......who tries to freestyle
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All talk, no walk. Sounds like an Azn. embarassedlaugh.gif2
k0r34n jjashik
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 7 2005, 01:16 PM)
QUOTE (k0r34n jjashik @ Aug 7 2005, 01:20 AM)
please tell me how the Ipod is better.. Do the normal or mini have a color screen? Nope.. just the IPod Photo.. And its..how much? 400 dollars? However, the Ipod photo doesnt even support video playback. Another complaint... what the hell is upwith the sound quality of the Ipod. Its HORRIBLE.. especially compared to the Irivers.

As for the whole nationalism thing stated above.. I didn't even know Iriver was a korean product till a week after I had mine. I mean it had Made in China on the back...
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And you call yourself Korean? How the heck can you not know iRivers are Korean?! I bet you didnt even know KIA was Korean as well!!! Azn Pryde! Power to the culturally retarded Aznz!!! embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 thumbsdown.gif
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bawling.gif
You hurt my feelings.

sure.gif sure.gif sure.gif

Wtf is up with this Renton guy?
Azncrombieguy
QUOTE (k0r34n jjashik @ Aug 7 2005, 01:20 AM)
please tell me how the Ipod is better.. Do the normal or mini have a color screen? Nope.. just the IPod Photo.. And its..how much? 400 dollars? However, the Ipod photo doesnt even support video playback. Another complaint... what the hell is upwith the sound quality of the Ipod. Its HORRIBLE.. especially compared to the Irivers.

As for the whole nationalism thing stated above.. I didn't even know Iriver was a korean product till a week after I had mine. I mean it had Made in China on the back...
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i just found out that iriver was a korean product after reading this thread
azndood
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 7 2005, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (azndood @ Aug 7 2005, 03:10 PM)
...do u live inthe US? im sure ur @$$ would have gotten jumped by now
acting like a metrosexual chinese bobmarley with a kekeke......who tries to freestyle
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All talk, no walk. Sounds like an Azn. embarassedlaugh.gif2
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thats right my name is AZNdood wtf are u
ghettonese? rentong wong tapsum bong? u dont deserve to have a d!ck
sirgika
Who said he had one.
RentonWong
LOL. You are a joke AznDood.
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