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Thought I’d re-do this thread again. Anyway I made some improvements.. so go ahead and skim through the changes I’ve made.

I need to mention this.. but uh yea.. if you're not interested, keep yourself outta here. We don't need any nonsense that is regarding something else. Whatever's unneccessary.. isn't needed. Just come here to learn Korean.

Alright well.. if you're fluent in speaking Korean. Then yea.. i think it would be great if u guys joined in to help others.

May this be hard or easy to understand, good luck. Ask questions.

Anyway if i made any mistakes.. let me know. I'm not very fluent in speaking Korean either + I speak mostly saturi with everything else put together -- english n' the seoul dialect. i was born in the states, so no sh*tz. lol. Good luck. I tried my best to make this understanding n' formal as possible for everyone. it may not be perfect. but oh well. point them out to me and i'll fix the errors. Good luck =)



ㅎ + ㅏ + ㄴ = 한 han

ㄱ + ㅜ + ㄱ = 국 guk

= 한국 > hanguk > Korean

Indigenous Korean writing system. This system was called hungmin chongum (meaning "correct sounds for instructing the people") when it was invented in the mid-fifteenth century but became known as Hangul after 1913. It is a phonetic writing system.

When first proclaimed by King Sejong, Hunmin chong-um had 28 letters in all, of which only 24 are in use today. The 24 letters are as follows.



Something I copied and pasted from another forum, I thought it would be really important for you guys to know before speaking Korean. Anyway, thanks to the person who shared this.
QUOTE(존대말 vs. 반대말 (Jeondaemal vs. Bandaemal – Formal vs. Informal Usage))
Looking through the forum, I realized that many people are not sure about honorifics - that is, a class of forms used to show respect. Generally speaking, Korean has two modes of speaking - formal (존대말) and informal (반대말). You must use formal mode with:

1. People superior to you with respect to legal, civic, or business authority. Cops, civil servants, and company superiors fall into this category. Generally speaking, age has no significance when power is involved. A 50-year old working for a 20-year old must still use 존대말, but the 20-year old doesn't have to.

2. People who appear to be around your age or older. It is *extremely* rude to use 반대말 with strangers unless they are obviously much younger than you. Be careful, because 반대말 is often used in Korea to deliberately provoke people! Err on the side of caution and use 존대말 when you are not sure. They might laugh at you, but at least they won't throw a punch in your face.

3. With your familiar elders - such as parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. - when you are out in public. If you are a very young kid, 반대말 is tolerated. And in private, 반대말 is typically used. But in public, you must show honor and respect toward your elders by using 존대말. I can't emphasize enough how important honor and respect are for Koreans - these are the cornerstones of Korean culture.

Whichever mode you choose, make sure that all your pronouns, objects, and verbs are in the same mode. It is considered poor form to mix and match different modes within the same sentence or the same piece of writing.

Informal - 나, 내, 너, 니, 네 [na (I), nae (I), neuh (you), ni (you), neh (yes)]
Formal - 저, 제, 당신 [Jeuh (directing a person/thing), Jeh (I), Dangshin]

QUOTE
A very good question, Styopa. Indeed, figuring out when to use 반대말 versus 존대말 with a person about your age is not so straightforward. But, don't despair, there is a protocol on this

What you do is use 존대말 until both of you agree to use 반대말. How soon this point comes depends on many factors like age, familiarity, and comfort level. But be prepared to be rejected when you suggest using 반대말. Unless the person feels very comfortable with you, he may not say yes, because 반대말 represents a significant leap in the friendship.

Here's my own personal experience to illustrate this process

Al: 안녕하세요!
Steve: 잘 주무셨어요?
Al: 예, 잘 잤읍니다. 근데 나이 몇살이에요?
Steve: 예, 수물 다섯입니다.
Al: 아, 나하고 동갑!
Steve: 그럼 존대말 그만하죠.
Al: 예, 그만해요.
(awkward silence...)
Steve: 야, 존대말 하다가 반대말 할려니까 이상하다
Al: 지금만 그렇지 나중엔 괜찮을꺼야.

Konglish translation:
Al: Annyeonghaseyo!
Steve: Jal jeumusyeo-sseoyo?
Al: Yae, jal jasseupnida. Geundae nahi myeosari-eyo?
Steve: Yae, seumul daseutimnida.
Al: Ah, nahako deongkap!
Steve: Geurum jeondaemal geuman-hajyo.
Al: Yae, geuman-haeyo.
(awkward silence...)
Steve: Ya, jeondaemal hadaka bandaemal harryeonikka isanghada.
Al: Jigeumman keureoji najoongen gwaenchaneul-kkeoya.

English translation:
Al: Good morning!
Steve: Did you sleep well?
Al: Yes, I slept well. By the way, how old are you?
Steve: I'm twenty five.
Al: Ah, you're the same age as me!
Steve: Then we can drop the honorific.
Al: Sure, let's stop.
(awkward silence...)
Steve: Man, it's strange trying to speak 반대말 after using 존대말.
Al: It's just for now. It'll be ok later.

As for using Korean with members of KO... I would stick with 존대말 unless you become their close friend or lover icon_wink.gif


QUOTE
This is an excellent question! As you mentioned, 당신 is rarely used face to face, especially with strangers. Instead, Koreans use titles which take the place of "you".

Addressing males older than you

할아버지 [Harabuji] (formal): IF the man is obviously a senior citizen.

아저씨 [Ajushi] (formal): IF you are a boy/girl or a young man/woman, and you are addressing an older man who doesn't look like a senior citizen.

Addressing females older than you

할머니 [Harmuni] (formal): IF the woman is obviously a senior citizen.

아줌마 [Ajumma] (formal): IF you are a boy/girl or a young man/woman, and you are addressing an older woman who doesn't look like a senior citizen but could be someone's mother. Be careful with this title!!! Women will take offense at being called 아줌마, especially if they look young for their age, if they are single, if they don't have children, etc. (See below for alternatives.)

Addressing males younger than you

청년 [Cheong-nyun] (informal/formal): Used by older people (I would say middle-age or older) to address a young man, someone who looks twenty-something. I marked its usage as informal/formal because some older people use formal speech even with much younger people, especially if they are strangers. Keep in mind that using 반대말 with a stranger is generally considered rude. Unless you are talking to a boy/girl, always use 존대말 with strangers.

너 [Nuh] (informal): If the person is a young boy.

Addressing females younger than you

아가씨 [Agasshi] (formal): Used by older people to address a young woman, someone who looks twenty something. Unlike 청년, 아가씨 is always used in formal tone. If the woman looks young, you will definitely want to use this one even if she has quintuplets. (She will feel flattered.) Calling a young woman 아줌마 instead of 아가씨 is a major faux pas! It's somewhat like calling her "Ma'am" instead of "Miss" but far, far worse. My brother once made this mistake and the woman was fuming!!

너 [Nuh] (informal): If the person is a young girl.

If you can't figure out which title to use

Then don't use any title... Korean can be spoken without pronouns, so just do so. You could say "여기 지갑 떨어졌어요 [Yeogi jikap ddeureo-jyeossuyo - You dropped your wallet/purse]" or "이 지갑 떨어졌네요 [i jikap ddeureo-jyeoneyo - You dropped your wallet/purse]" in their direction, and they will most likely turn around and realize you are talking to them. Another alternative is to call their attention first by saying "여기 보세요 [Yeuki boseyo - Excuse me/look here]" but not many people do this.

Just remember that native Koreans typically speak without using direct pronouns:

Mom: 밥 먹었니? [Bap meukeoni? - Did you eat?]
Me: 예, 맛있게 먹었어요. [Yae, mashikeh meukeosseuyo - Yes, I ate well]

Insisting on pronouns is one of the things that give away a non-native Korean speaker, so you will want to leave them out as much as possible. This is not only limited to Korean. Portuguese, for example, does something similar:

Sou americano. [(I) am American]




Fundamentals of Basic Korean


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Remember the alphabet/vowels/consonants.. you pronounce it in a normal manner like the English alphabet. There is no unique or special click/pronounciation to it, at all. So don't ask me anymore, just keep that in mind & you'll be okay.

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Anything w/ the ending ___ is polite or formal:

요[yo] [Polite]
습니다 [supnida] [Semi-polite/formal]
습니가 [supnika] [Semi-polite/formal]
십니가 [shipnika] [Semi-polite/formal]
입니가 [ipnika] [Semi-polite/formal]

You should remember this because meeting anyone around your age or older in Korea, you have to use polite ending-words to show respect, but that can be changed once the other person feels comfortable knowing you (Bandaemal informal-use) & becomes your new friend. As for elders (or basically anyone older), you have to use the polite endings regardless.

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Vowel Graphemes

Simple Vowel:
ㅏ [ah - a] [father]
ㅓ [uh, eo, eu] [auction]
ㅗ [oh, o] [old]
ㅜ [oo, u] [tune, moon]
ㅡ [uh, eu] [put]
ㅣ [ee, i] [evil]
ㅐ [ae] [set or sale]
ㅔ [eh] [end]

Note: Differences you should notice in the pronunciation of the 2 vowels that a lot of people seemed to be confused about.

& -- &

Here’s a difference between the two.

is pronounced as ‘oh’ ‘o’, while is pronounced as ‘uh’ ‘eo’ ‘eu’ (same pronunciation just spelled differently). Keep that in mind.

Oh nevermind, it must have been &

Alright, here's the difference between these two vowels.

is pronounced as 'ae', which is said faster. While is pronounced as 'eh', which is said slower compared to 'ae'.



Diphthongs:
ㅑ [ya] [father]
ㅕ [yuh, yeo] [auction]
ㅛ [yo] [old]
ㅠ [yoo] [tune]
ㅖ [yeh] [end]
ㅒ [yae] [set or sale]
ㅘ [wah] [wand]
ㅙ [wae] [went]
ㅝ [eo, wuh] [war]
ㅞ [weh] [went]
ㅚ [oh-ee, oi, oh-eh]
ㅟ [wee, wi] [weed]
ㅢ [uh-ee, ui]


(1) Vertical Vowels
There are nine "vertical vowels". When writing a vertical vowel without a preceding consonant, an "ㅇ" must be added. This initial consonant "ㅇ" is written to the left of the vowel.

아 야 어 여 이 에 애 예 얘

(2) Horizontal Vowels
There are also five "horizontal vowels". With a horizontal vowel, the initial consonant is written above the vowel.

오 요 우 유 으

(3) Combinations of Vertical and Horizontal Vowels
There are seven diphthongs, which are combinations of vertical and horizontal vowels. The rule of the initial consonant is still applicable. Therefore, the initial consonant "ㅇ" must appear to the left of hte vertical and above the horizontal vowel.

와 워 외 위 왜 웨 의



Consonant Graphemes

The consonants of the Hangul alphabet were designed so their shapes would reflect the place and manner of articulation. For example, the shapes of the 5 consonants reflect the 5 different methods of articulation.

In Korean, the consonant is always pronounced in combination with a vowel, with the exception of the "ㅇ" as the initial consonant. Each consonant has it's own individual sound and "name". The name of the consonant also reflects the sound made by that consonant when spoken. For instance, the name of this symbol "ㄱ" is kiyeok and it's sound is similar to the English "k".

Plain Consonants:
ㄱ (k , g)
ㄴ (n)
ㄷ (d , t)
ㄹ (r , l)
ㅁ (m)
ㅂ (b , p)
ㅅ (s, sh)
ㅇ (voiceless, ng)
ㅈ (j, ch)
ㅊ (ch)
ㅋ (k)
ㅌ (t)
ㅍ (p)
ㅎ (h)



Double Consonants:
ㅃ (pp)
ㅉ (tch)
ㄸ (tt)
ㄲ (kk)
ㅆ (ss)



The sound produced by a double consonant is sharper than that of the single. The name of a double consonant is simply the name of the single consonant with 'ssang' attached to the name of the single consonant. For instance, the name of the character "ㄲ" is ssang-kiyeok.

The pronunciation of the double consonants, what you do is double the sounds together by making it a more thicker/punchier sound. For example, '' (pp, bb) it's like when someone says "But!". You put a little more pressure into it than just the single '' (b, p) sound.


The letters are grouped into syllable blocks containing an initial consonant (which may be silent or double), one or two vowels (below or to the right), and sometimes a final consonant (below).

The basic letters of the alphabet when Hunmin chong-um was first created numbered eight; they were the consonants ", , , , " and the vowels ", "

The reason consonants and vowels were separated was due to their differing functions when two letters were combined to form a syllable. Hunmin chong-um is basically a form of hieroglyph. Consonants, the initial sound letters, resemble a person's speech organs. The shape of each letter is based on the form of different sound articulation units. Other consonants, excluding by adding additional strokes to the basic forms, based on the strength of the sounds.

ㄱ [기역 – Kiyeok]: To pronounce this letter, part of the tongue touches the molar teeth and sticks near the uvula. The shape of the letter is based on the lateral form of this process.

ㄴ [니은 – Nieun]: To pronounce this letter, the front of the tongue curves and the tip of the tongue sticks to the upper gums. The shape of the letter is based on the lateral form of this process.

ㅁ [미음 – Mieum]: To pronounce this letter, upper and lower lips are joined. The shape of the letter is based on the form of the joined lips.

ㅅ [시옷 – Siot]: To pronounce this letter, the tip of the tongue and the upper teeth are brought close together, and sound is created by blowing through the narrowed passage. The shape of the letter is based on the form of the teeth during the process.


[g] + ㅏ [ah] = 가 [ga]
[g] + ㅑ [ya] = 갸 [gya]
[g] + ㅓ [uh] = 거 [guh]
[g] + ㅕ [yuh, yeo] = 겨 [gyuh]
[g] + ㅗ [oh] = 고 [go]
[g] + ㅛ [yo] = 교 [gyo]
[g] + ㅜ [oo] = 구 [goo]
[g] + ㅠ [yoo] = 규 [gyoo, gyu]
[g] + ㅡ [uh] = 그 [guh]
[g] + ㅣ [ee] = 기 [gi, ki]
[n] + ㅏ [ah] = 나 [na]
[n] + ㅑ [ya] = 냐 [nya]
[n] + ㅓ [uh] = 너 [nuh]
[n] + ㅕ [yuh, yeo] = 녀 [nyuh]
[n] + ㅗ [oh] = 노 [noh]
[n] + ㅛ [yo] = 뇨 [nyo]
[n] + ㅜ [oo] = 누 [noo]
[n] + ㅠ [yoo] = 뉴 [nyoo]
[n] + ㅡ [nuh] = 느 [nuh]
[n] + ㅣ [nee] = 니 [ni]

As the above example clearly show, Hangul. With only 14 consonants and 10 vowels, is capable of expressing virtually any sound.


The Korean language has a well-developed and expansive vocabulary, and therefore, it is very difficult to express fully in foreign letter. However, due to its scientific design, it is quite easy to approximate the sounds of foreign words in the Korean alphabet. Following are some examples of English words expressed in Hangul.

London - 런던 [Run + Dun = Reondun ]
New York – 뉴욕 [Nyoo + Yok = Nyu-yeok ]
America – 아메리카 [Ah + Meh + Ri + Ka = Amerika ]

In particular, because of its simplicity and the rather small number of letters, Hangul is very easy to learn even for children and foreigners.

It is no coincidence that by the time they reach the ages of two or three, most Korean children are already capable of expressing their feelings and thoughts, albeit in primitive form. By the time they reach school age, most exhibit mastery of Hangul, which is indeed a rare phenomenon throughout the world. This fact clearly attests to the easy learn-ability and accessibility of the Korean alphabet.

Throughout history, Hangul has been at the root of the Korean culture, helping to preserve its national identity and independence.

Literacy is virtually nonexistent in Korea. This is another fact that attests to the easy learn-ability of Hangul. It is not uncommon for a foreigner to gain a working knowledge of Hangul after one or two hours of intensive studying. In addition, because of its scientific design, Hangul lends itself to easy mechanization.


Use of Consonants & Vowels

Vowels in the Korean languages may be attached to the left, right or beneath each other in order to form a word; the following are examples of their use:

[ga, ka]
[guh, geuh]
[guh]
[gyuh]
[gya]
[gi, ki]
[goh]
[ba]
[buh, beo]
[buh]
[boo]
[byo]
[ma]
[muh]
[moo]
[nah]
[nuh]
[ee, i]
[ya]
[go]
[dya]
[yo]
[oh]
[doh]
[duh]
[doo]


When constructing a word, you must add a mixture of consonants and vowels, beginning with the consonant at the beginning of the word. In some cases, there is no need to use a consonant at the beginning in which case ㅇ (null character) is used.

[ㅇ (silent) + ㅏ (ah) = 아 (Ah) ]
[ㄹ+ ㅡ (uh) + ㅁ (m) = 름 (Rum) ]
[ㄱ (g) + ㅏ (ah) + ㅁ (m) = 감 (Gam) ]
[ㅇ (silent) + ㅗ (oh) + ㅅ (s) = 옷 (Eot) ]
[ㅇ (silent) + ㅓ (uh) + ㅂㅅ (b. p) = 없 (Eup) ]
[ㄲ (gg) + ㅗ (oh) + ㅊ (ch, t) = 꽃 (Ggeot) ]
[ㅎ (h) + ㅏ (ah) + ㄴ (n) = 한 (Han) ]
[ㄱ (g) + ㅜ (oo, u) + ㄱ (g, k) = 국 (Guk) ]

QUOTE(Pronounciations)
Consonants:
[g, k] = 'G'reat, ‘k’ite
[n] = 'N'ot
[d, t] = 'D’og
[r, l] = 'R'un, ‘l’a‘l’a‘l’a
[m] = 'M'oney
[b, p] = 'B'ond, ‘p’at
[s, sh] = 'S'and or 'sh'ack
[ng or it's silent in initial position, like this for example ‘오’] = You'ng' or silent[/b]
[j] = 'J'et
[ch] = 'Ch'arity
[k] = 'K'ane
[t] = 'T'alk
[p] = 'P'uppy
[h] = 'H'ut

Vowels:
[ah - a] = When something startles you, you'd probably say 'ah'
[ya] = 'Ya'hoo
[uh] = When you're trying to remember something, you'd probably think 'uh.. '
[yuh, yeo] = 'Yu'ck
[oh - o] = 'O'ver
[yo] = 'Yo' homie
[oo, u] = B‘oo’, Sc‘oo’ter
[yoo] = It's like saying 'you'
[uh] = When you're trying to think of something, you'd probably say 'uh.. '
[ee - i] = 'E'at or k'ee'p, but there isn't any kind of 'i' sound like ‘i’t for example.

Vowel Combination:
[ae] = S‘e’t or s‘a’le
[yae] = 'Y'es + 'ae' (Keep in mind ‘ae’ is said faster compared to 'eh[/b]')
[eh] = S‘e’t (‘eh’ is said slower compared to 'ae')
[yeh] = 'Y'et + 'eh'
[wah] = ‘Wha’t
[wae] = ‘Whe’n
[ohae, oh-ee, oi]
[oh, woh] ‘Oh’ I see, ‘wo’ah
[weh] ‘Whe’re
[wee, oo-i]
[uh-ee, ui]

There is no unique pronunciation in the Korean alphabet; so you shouldn’t worry too much about that.

And also in Romanization you can always shorten the pronunciation of the consonant and vowels, For example:

Let’s say you were trying to Romanize,
바로 이때 한 여자가 다방으로 들어왔다, which say’s “At this point a woman came into the tearoom”

Usually if you were trying to Romanize this, you’d probably use the romanization that is directly listed above, like this, right?

“Baroh Eeddae han yuh-jagah dabanguroh duluwatdah” [Bah+Roh Ee+Ddae Han Yuh+Ja+Gah Da+Bang+Uh+Ro Deul+Ro+Wah+Da]

I’ve seen these kinds of mistakes many times and I remember I made those mistakes too. But after understanding it better, you could shorten the Romanization and make it blend in together, like this:

“Baro ittae han yeojaka dabangeuro deuleowatda”

That blends in better, right? And it’s easier to read w/ it sounding just about right.. as though you were reading it in Korean.

And this is also the many ways you could learn and understand Korean w/ pronunciation by trying to Romanize them. The idea just clicked in my head, but yeah.. I think it would work. Just get a list of Korean words and Romanize them into English. Then level yourself up, when you get a better understanding of it by using no Romanization at all.



Here's a sample, using the consonants & vowels:

Hello – 안녕하세요 [Ahn + Nyoung + Ha + Seh + Yo = Annyounghaseyo ]

[‘o’ ( Silent, because it’s on top ) + ‘ㅏ’ ( Ah ) + ㄴ( N ) = 안 ( Ahn )]

[ㄴ( N ) + ㅕ( Yuh ) + ㅇ( Ng, has a sound because it's on the bottom ) = 녕 (Nyoung, pronouncing it's like saying ‘young’ but with an 'n' in the beginning )]

[ㅎ( H ) + ㅏ( Ah ) = 하 ( Ha, like hahaha )]

[ㅅ( S ) + ㅔ( Eh) = 세 ( Seh, as in ‘se’t )]

[Yo, like saying "yo homey" ]


Who sent this? – 이거 누가 보냈어? [Ee + guh, Noo + gah, Bo + nae + ssuh = Ikeo neuga bonaessuh ]

이거 [이 ( Ee ) + 거 ( Guh ) = 이거 ( Ikeo )]

누가 [누 ( Noo, sounds like 'new' ) + 가 ( Gah, like ‘go’d ) = 누가 ( Neuga )]

보냈어 [보 ( Bo, like ‘bo’nafide ) + 냈 ( Nae, carry the ‘’ to ‘’ replacing the ‘’ ) + 어 ( Ssuh, since you replaced the ‘’ with a ‘’. Why? Because the ‘’ is voiceless and ‘’ is a double consonant. It’s just how Korean reading flows, word to word. ) = 보냈어 ( Bonaessuh )]


More on constructing words

A syllable that consists of a consonant and a "vertical vowel" is written with the consonant on the left and the vowel on the right
ㄴ + ㅏ = 나
n + ah = na

A syllable that consists of a consonant and a "horizontal vowel" is written with the consonant on top and the vowel underneath:
ㅁ + ㅗ = 모
m + oh = mo

If a syllable has a consonant, vowel, and consonant, the final consonant, called patch'im (meaning "supporting floor" in Korean) goes to the bottom -- or floor -- of that syllable.
ㅁ + ㅏ + ㄴ = 만
m + ah + n = man


Korean Words To Learn / Vocabularies

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No - 아니오 [Anioh]
Let's make a promise - 약속 하자 [Yakseok (promise) haja (to do)]
How do I do this? - 어떻개 해요? [Euddu(h)kae haeyo?]

Pictures I scanned from an old book

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Useful Phrases

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Question Words

When? - 언제요? [Eun jeh yo? - Eunjeyo?]

Where? - 오디에요? [Oh dee eh yo? - Eudieyo?]

How much? - 얼마애요? [Eul ma ae yo? - Eulma-aeyo?]

Who? - 누구에요? [Noo goo eh yo? - Neugu-eyo?]

Why? - 웨요? [Weh yo? - Weyo?]

How? - 어떻게요? [Euh ddeuh keh yo? - Euddeukeyo?]

What? - 뭐애요? [Moh ae yo? - Mo-aeyo?]

What's this? - 이것이 뭐애요? [Ee-guh-shi moh-ae-yo? - Ikeushi mo-aeyo?]

Where's the bathroom? - 화장실 어디세요 [Hwa-jang-shil Euh-di-seh-yo? - Hwajangshil Eudiseyo?]


Add Ons [Different ways to say ____.. more than once]

Don't Know
몰라요 [Meorrayo]
몰라 [Meorrah]
모르겠다 [Meorreugetda]
몰리겠습니다 [Meorriget-supnida]

(I) Don't Know
나는 몰리겠다 [Nanun Meorrigetda]
나는 몰리겠습니다 [Nanun Meorriget-subnida]
나 모르겠다 [Na Meorreugetda]
나는 잘 몰라요 [Nanun Jal Meorrayo]
나 몰라요 [Na Meorrayo]
나 몰라 [Na Meorrah]

What's that?
그거 먼대? [Geukuh Mundae?]
그 먼대? [Geuh Mundae?]
그 뭐야? [Geuh Meoya?]
그 뭐예요 [Geuh Meoyaeyo?]
그거는 뭐야? [Gukeonun Meoya?]
뭐야? [Meoya?]
먼대 [Geuh Mundae?]


Parts of the body : Members of the Family : Counting 1-10 : Colors : Learning Hangeul Tips

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ksurf3rgrl
[Making this space before opening so I can re-edit this post w/ more add-ons]
dexta
In the add-ons section, i think it should be 모르겠다 instead of 몰리겠다, etc.
Jhangora
Thanx for the information beerchug.gif .I want a conversation partner.Would it be possible confused.gif .
ksurf3rgrl
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Yeah no problem, maybe who knows.. anyone mind having a conversation w/ Jhangora? lol.

QUOTE(dexta @ Jun 11 2006, 02:42 AM) [snapback]1941535[/snapback]

In the add-ons section, i think it should be 모르겠다 instead of 몰리겠다, etc.

Oh yeah that's right, I'll go ahead and fix that, thanks..
Jhangora
QUOTE(ksurf3rgrl @ Jun 12 2006, 05:21 PM) [snapback]1944814[/snapback]

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Yeah no problem, maybe who knows.. anyone mind having a conversation w/ Jhangora? lol.



how about you grl.I've been living in S Korea for 2 1/2 yrz n my Korean Vocabulary is limited to around 150 words. icon_redface.gif .
Mua
This thread is pretty good, solid work.수고했!
ksurf3rgrl
^
yeah it was a lot of work.. lol.

QUOTE(Jhangora @ Jun 12 2006, 08:55 AM) [snapback]1945046[/snapback]

how about you grl.I've been living in S Korea for 2 1/2 yrz n my Korean Vocabulary is limited to around 150 words. icon_redface.gif .

oh really? Are you teaching there or..? Well I don't know if I'll really have time for that though, but maybe I'll send you a msg or something whenever I do.
Jhangora
QUOTE(ksurf3rgrl @ Jun 13 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]1947699[/snapback]

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yeah it was a lot of work.. lol.
oh really? Are you teaching there or..? Well I don't know if I'll really have time for that though, but maybe I'll send you a msg or something whenever I do.


I'm not teaching and it seems you are not in S Korea icon_sad.gif .
_Jasmine_Flowers
O cool........ madcool.gif
Jhangora
Friends one question.Is Ajumma the right and correct way to address a young and beautiful girl.Each time I call the young girl working at the cyber cafe I've been coming regularly for 6 months now "AJUMMA" her facial muscles stiffen a bit.

I am confused.
yuuri
people say that reading comics is a good way to learn a foreign language.
any manhwa that you can recommend for beginners like me?
i would appreciate it if you could post a download link here, too.. thanks. icon_wink.gif
jeansweap7
<<Let's speak Korean>> is a good tv program to study Korean.
lilasiankid
I can't read Korean hangul etc. so I have to read Romanized Korean. I find it difficult since some words don't sound like how they are spelled. Unlike Japanese, where you can pretty much read words in romaji and you can sound out the word as how Japanese people say their words.

so what I want to know is,

can someone put up a link where I can hear audio clips of counting numbers in Korean to either 10 or 20??? I need to know how to count in Korean a little bit (for Taekwondo). And I wanna pronounce it right like how Koreans would say it. I like to imitate native speakers when speaking other languages so pronounciation is at my best lol. embarassedlaugh.gif I've tried googling for audio clips of Korean numbers but there's nothing, unlike when I was looking for Japanese language $hit online, there's tons o stuff! So anyone have links to audio lessons etc. please post them up! Thanks! biggthumpup.gif

I might actually try to learn a little bit of Korean from here on too. Just for Taekwondo lol. embarassedlaugh.gif
dexta
1- il (like eel, but quicker and sharper. il)
2- e (like the letter e)
3- sam (sahm)
4- sa (sah, like ahhh with an s in the front)
5- oh (just like in english, but quicker and sharper)
6- yuk (yook)
7- chil (cheel, except quicker and sharper)
8- pal (pahl, sorta... this one is hard because of the weird r/l letter in korea. pahl is the best i can do for u)
9- gu (like goo, but quicker and sharper. gu)
10- ship (like sheep, but quicker and sharper)

just think of the letter i as the same in spanish. it's pronounced as "e"
lilasiankid
QUOTE(dexta @ Jun 27 2006, 01:41 AM) [snapback]1994286[/snapback]

1- il (like eel, but quicker and sharper. il)
2- e (like the letter e)
3- sam (sahm)
4- sa (sah, like ahhh with an s in the front)
5- oh (just like in english, but quicker and sharper)
6- yuk (yook)
7- chil (cheel, except quicker and sharper)
8- pal (pahl, sorta... this one is hard because of the weird r/l letter in korea. pahl is the best i can do for u)
9- gu (like goo, but quicker and sharper. gu)
10- ship (like sheep, but quicker and sharper)

just think of the letter i as the same in spanish. it's pronounced as "e"


Thanks lol embarassedlaugh.gif , I dunno the difference, I dont anything about Korean language.....but in Taekwondo, we go by...

1. hana
2. tul
3. set
4. net
5. tasot
6. yosot
7. ilgop
8. yodolp
9. ahop
10. yol
11. yol-hana
12. yol-tul
13. yol-set
14. yol-net
15. yol-tasot
16. yol-yosot
17. yol-ilgop
18. yol-yodolp
19. yol-ahop
20 - sumul
30 - sorun
40 - mahun
50 - shween
60 - yesun
70 - irun
80 - yodun
90 - ahun
Eclectic Asian
what does goketchupgo mean? confused.gif

thanks

dexta
;; oh

-_- oh well.
ddha
Can someone please show me how to say this phrase in Korean and include the hangul for it too? I'm able to pronounce it better sounding out the hangul writing than the Romanized Korean. Thanks so much.

How do I say:

"I'm trying to learn Korean. How do you think I'm doing so far?"

ksurf3rgrl
QUOTE(ddha @ Jul 10 2006, 04:29 PM) [snapback]2037785[/snapback]

Can someone please show me how to say this phrase in Korean and include the hangul for it too? I'm able to pronounce it better sounding out the hangul writing than the Romanized Korean. Thanks so much.

How do I say:

"I'm trying to learn Korean. How do you think I'm doing so far?"

한국말 배우고 있는데요.. 너 생각에, 내 말이 었데요?

Hangukmal baeuko ihnundeyo.. nuh saenggakeh, nae mari eutdeyo?

한국말 [Hangukmal] ~ Korean language
배우고 [Baeuko] ~ To Learn
있는데요 [Ihnundeyo] ~ To be doing
너 [Nuh] ~ You
생각에 [Saenggakeh] ~ Thoughts, Think
내 [Nae] ~ I, Me
말이 [Mari] ~ Words
었데요 [Eutdeyo] ~ What do you think?
ddha
QUOTE(ksurf3rgrl @ Jul 11 2006, 02:03 PM) [snapback]2040576[/snapback]

한국말 배우고 있는데요.. 너 생각에, 내 말이 었데요?

Hangukmal baeuko ihnundeyo.. nuh saenggakeh, nae mari eutdeyo?

한국말 [Hangukmal] ~ Korean language
배우고 [Baeuko] ~ To Learn
있는데요 [Ihnundeyo] ~ To be doing
너 [Nuh] ~ You
생각에 [Saenggakeh] ~ Thoughts, Think
내 [Nae] ~ I, Me
말이 [Mari] ~ Words
었데요 [Eutdeyo] ~ What do you think?


Wow this is excellent! Thanks so much ksurf3rgrl... you're the greatest! biggthumpup.gif
dexta
it should be 네 생각... 네 = your. it's pronounced as "니"
HanulSky
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konstant_state
learn to speak Korean?

check my thread for audio lesson from Pimsleur
Learn Korean
charles43
QUOTE(HanulSky @ Jul 19 2006, 01:31 AM) [snapback]2065455[/snapback]

Hmm I think foreigners are confused by how the letters are stacked. Only korean has stacking. So it might befuddle others. For koreans it's natural, but beginners might be confused.

Stacking rules:

Blocks are always written in phonetic order, initial-medial-final.
I made the initial bold, the medial italic, and the bachim underline to distiguish them better

The initial letter is always a consonount. If it no consonaunt it's replace with the ㅇ.
The medial is a vowel. Sometimes there is two. When there is two and one is horizontal the horizontal is written first. Then the vertical.
The bachim is always a consonaunt. It's written under the intial, and medials from left to right.

Vertical medial written to the right of the initial letter:
initial medial

When there is two vertical:
initial1st med. 2nd med.

Horizontal medial is written to the bottom of the initial letter:
initial
medial

When there is two and one is horizontal the horizontal is written first. Then the vertical.
initial 2nd med.
1st med.

A final jamo, if there is one, is always written at the bottom, under the medial. This is called 받침 batchim "supporting floor":

initial medial(s)
final

initial
medial
final
initial 2nd med.
1st med.
final (bachim)
Linear Hangul
There was a minor movement in the twentieth century to abolish syllabic blocks and write the jamo individually and in a row, in the fashion of the Western alphabets: e.g. ㅎㅏㄴㄱㅡㄹ for 한글 hangul. (Obviously that's western influence.)

Also a ka na da ra chart might help. It's not the chart I used in hangul hakkyo, but it's similiar. They didn't include the doubled consonaunts.

http://www.langintro.com/kintro/alphord.htm


thank you for explaining that but I found already speaking Chinese made stacking easy to figure out because chinese has similar rules in character writting not necesarily stacking but similar rules.
charles43
wow! ksurf girl, thank you so much for posting this!!!! This is so extremely helpful. Again, thank you so so so so much!
Nouveau
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Thought I’d re-do the thread again, anyway I’ve made some improvements, so go ahead and skim through some of the changes that I’ve made.
If you're not interested, then please don't get yourself involved here. Let's stay on topic, meaning learning and being interested in only the Korean language (don't want to go through what happened before cool30.gif or what some of the folks brought into the thread that had nothing to do with learning Korean, eh.)

Alright well, if there are any fluent Korean speakers or if you're decent enough (doesn't matter), then yeah I think it would be awesome if you guys joined in to help out some learners here.

Okay.. well, learning the Korean alphabet shouldn't be too hard for you guys, hopefully you won’t have too much of a hard time learning it (I hope). IPB Image So yeah, good luck in learning Korean and be free to ask questions.

Oh yeah, if you see any mistakes, go ahead and point them out to me. Since I'm not a very fluent Korean speaker myself.. growing up in America, but I do speak Korean to my parents in saturi (사투리 - 경상도 dialect) and partially the seoul dialect.. eh it's pretty much all of that put together w/ English, lol. But yeah I'd appreciate it if you pointed out the mistakes 고마워요 =)
ㅎ + ㅏ + ㄴ = 한 han

ㄱ + ㅜ + ㄱ = 국 guk

= 한국 > hanguk > Korean

Indigenous Korean writing system. This system was called hungmin chongum (meaning "correct sounds for instructing the people") when it was invented in the mid-fifteenth century but became known as Hangul after 1913. It is a phonetic writing system.

When first proclaimed by King Sejong, Hunmin chong-um had 28 letters in all, of which only 24 are in use today. The 24 letters are as follows.
Something I copied and pasted from another forum, I thought it would be really important for you guys to know before speaking Korean. Anyway, thanks to the person who shared this.



Fundamentals of Basic Korean
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Remember the alphabet/vowels/consonants.. you pronounce it in a normal manner like the English alphabet. There is no unique or special click/pronounciation to it, at all. So don't ask me anymore, just keep that in mind & you'll be okay.

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Anything w/ the ending ___ is polite or formal:

요[yo] [Polite]
습니다 [supnida] [Semi-polite/formal]
습니가 [supnika] [Semi-polite/formal]
십니가 [shipnika] [Semi-polite/formal]
입니가 [ipnika] [Semi-polite/formal]

You should remember this because meeting anyone around your age or older in Korea, you have to use polite ending-words to show respect, but that can be changed once the other person feels comfortable knowing you (Bandaemal informal-use) & becomes your new friend. As for elders (or basically anyone older), you have to use the polite endings regardless.

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Vowel Graphemes

Simple Vowel:
ㅏ [ah - a] [father]
ㅓ [uh, eo, eu] [auction]
ㅗ [oh, o] [old]
ㅜ [oo, u] [tune, moon]
ㅡ [uh, eu] [put]
ㅣ [ee, i] [evil]
ㅐ [ae] [set or sale]
ㅔ [eh] [end]

Note: Differences you should notice in the pronunciation of the 2 vowels that a lot of people seemed to be confused about.

& -- &

Here’s a difference between the two.

is pronounced as ‘oh’ ‘o’, while is pronounced as ‘uh’ ‘eo’ ‘eu’ (same pronunciation just spelled differently). Keep that in mind.

Oh nevermind, it must have been &

Alright, here's the difference between these two vowels.

is pronounced as 'ae', which is said faster. While is pronounced as 'eh', which is said slower compared to 'ae'.
Diphthongs:
ㅑ [ya] [father]
ㅕ [yuh, yeo] [auction]
ㅛ [yo] [old]
ㅠ [yoo] [tune]
ㅖ [yeh] [end]
ㅒ [yae] [set or sale]
ㅘ [wah] [wand]
ㅙ [wae] [went]
ㅝ [eo, wuh] [war]
ㅞ [weh] [went]
ㅚ [oh-ee, oi, oh-eh]
ㅟ [wee, wi] [weed]
ㅢ [uh-ee, ui]
(1) Vertical Vowels
There are nine "vertical vowels". When writing a vertical vowel without a preceding consonant, an "ㅇ" must be added. This initial consonant "ㅇ" is written to the left of the vowel.

아 야 어 여 이 에 애 예 얘

(2) Horizontal Vowels
There are also five "horizontal vowels". With a horizontal vowel, the initial consonant is written above the vowel.

오 요 우 유 으

(3) Combinations of Vertical and Horizontal Vowels
There are seven diphthongs, which are combinations of vertical and horizontal vowels. The rule of the initial consonant is still applicable. Therefore, the initial consonant "ㅇ" must appear to the left of hte vertical and above the horizontal vowel.

와 워 외 위 왜 웨 의
Consonant Graphemes

The consonants of the Hangul alphabet were designed so their shapes would reflect the place and manner of articulation. For example, the shapes of the 5 consonants reflect the 5 different methods of articulation.

In Korean, the consonant is always pronounced in combination with a vowel, with the exception of the "ㅇ" as the initial consonant. Each consonant has it's own individual sound and "name". The name of the consonant also reflects the sound made by that consonant when spoken. For instance, the name of this symbol "ㄱ" is kiyeok and it's sound is similar to the English "k".

Plain Consonants:
ㄱ (k , g)
ㄴ (n)
ㄷ (d , t)
ㄹ (r , l)
ㅁ (m)
ㅂ (b , p)
ㅅ (s, sh)
ㅇ (voiceless, ng)
ㅈ (j, ch)
ㅊ (ch)
ㅋ (k)
ㅌ (t)
ㅍ (p)
ㅎ (h)

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Double Consonants:
ㅃ (pp)
ㅉ (tch)
ㄸ (tt)
ㄲ (kk)
ㅆ (ss)

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The sound produced by a double consonant is sharper than that of the single. The name of a double consonant is simply the name of the single consonant with 'ssang' attached to the name of the single consonant. For instance, the name of the character "ㄲ" is ssang-kiyeok.

The pronunciation of the double consonants, what you do is double the sounds together by making it a more thicker/punchier sound. For example, '' (pp, bb) it's like when someone says "But!". You put a little more pressure into it than just the single '' (b, p) sound.
The letters are grouped into syllable blocks containing an initial consonant (which may be silent or double), one or two vowels (below or to the right), and sometimes a final consonant (below).

The basic letters of the alphabet when Hunmin chong-um was first created numbered eight; they were the consonants ", , , , " and the vowels ", "

The reason consonants and vowels were separated was due to their differing functions when two letters were combined to form a syllable. Hunmin chong-um is basically a form of hieroglyph. Consonants, the initial sound letters, resemble a person's speech organs. The shape of each letter is based on the form of different sound articulation units. Other consonants, excluding by adding additional strokes to the basic forms, based on the strength of the sounds.

ㄱ [기역 – Kiyeok]: To pronounce this letter, part of the tongue touches the molar teeth and sticks near the uvula. The shape of the letter is based on the lateral form of this process.

ㄴ [니은 – Nieun]: To pronounce this letter, the front of the tongue curves and the tip of the tongue sticks to the upper gums. The shape of the letter is based on the lateral form of this process.

ㅁ [미음 – Mieum]: To pronounce this letter, upper and lower lips are joined. The shape of the letter is based on the form of the joined lips.

ㅅ [시옷 – Siot]: To pronounce this letter, the tip of the tongue and the upper teeth are brought close together, and sound is created by blowing through the narrowed passage. The shape of the letter is based on the form of the teeth during the process.
[g] + ㅏ [ah] = 가 [ga]
[g] + ㅑ [ya] = 갸 [gya]
[g] + ㅓ [uh] = 거 [guh]
[g] + ㅕ [yuh, yeo] = 겨 [gyuh]
[g] + ㅗ [oh] = 고 [go]
[g] + ㅛ [yo] = 교 [gyo]
[g] + ㅜ [oo] = 구 [goo]
[g] + ㅠ [yoo] = 규 [gyoo, gyu]
[g] + ㅡ [uh] = 그 [guh]
[g] + ㅣ [ee] = 기 [gi, ki]
[n] + ㅏ [ah] = 나 [na]
[n] + ㅑ [ya] = 냐 [nya]
[n] + ㅓ [uh] = 너 [nuh]
[n] + ㅕ [yuh, yeo] = 녀 [nyuh]
[n] + ㅗ [oh] = 노 [noh]
[n] + ㅛ [yo] = 뇨 [nyo]
[n] + ㅜ [oo] = 누 [noo]
[n] + ㅠ [yoo] = 뉴 [nyoo]
[n] + ㅡ [nuh] = 느 [nuh]
[n] + ㅣ [nee] = 니 [ni]

As the above example clearly show, Hangul. With only 14 consonants and 10 vowels, is capable of expressing virtually any sound.
The Korean language has a well-developed and expansive vocabulary, and therefore, it is very difficult to express fully in foreign letter. However, due to its scientific design, it is quite easy to approximate the sounds of foreign words in the Korean alphabet. Following are some examples of English words expressed in Hangul.

London - 런던 [Run + Dun = Reondun ]
New York – 뉴욕 [Nyoo + Yok = Nyu-yeok ]
America – 아메리카 [Ah + Meh + Ri + Ka = Amerika ]

In particular, because of its simplicity and the rather small number of letters, Hangul is very easy to learn even for children and foreigners.

It is no coincidence that by the time they reach the ages of two or three, most Korean children are already capable of expressing their feelings and thoughts, albeit in primitive form. By the time they reach school age, most exhibit mastery of Hangul, which is indeed a rare phenomenon throughout the world. This fact clearly attests to the easy learn-ability and accessibility of the Korean alphabet.

Throughout history, Hangul has been at the root of the Korean culture, helping to preserve its national identity and independence.

Literacy is virtually nonexistent in Korea. This is another fact that attests to the easy learn-ability of Hangul. It is not uncommon for a foreigner to gain a working knowledge of Hangul after one or two hours of intensive studying. In addition, because of its scientific design, Hangul lends itself to easy mechanization.
Use of Consonants & Vowels

Vowels in the Korean languages may be attached to the left, right or beneath each other in order to form a word; the following are examples of their use:

[ga, ka]
[guh, geuh]
[guh]
[gyuh]
[gya]
[gi, ki]
[goh]
[ba]
[buh, beo]
[buh]
[boo]
[byo]
[ma]
[muh]
[moo]
[nah]
[nuh]
[ee, i]
[ya]
[go]
[dya]
[yo]
[oh]
[doh]
[duh]
[doo]
When constructing a word, you must add a mixture of consonants and vowels, beginning with the consonant at the beginning of the word. In some cases, there is no need to use a consonant at the beginning in which case ㅇ (null character) is used.

[ㅇ (silent) + ㅏ (ah) = 아 (Ah) ]
[ㄹ+ ㅡ (uh) + ㅁ (m) = 름 (Rum) ]
[ㄱ (g) + ㅏ (ah) + ㅁ (m) = 감 (Gam) ]
[ㅇ (silent) + ㅗ (oh) + ㅅ (s) = 옷 (Eot) ]
[ㅇ (silent) + ㅓ (uh) + ㅂㅅ (b. p) = 없 (Eup) ]
[ㄲ (gg) + ㅗ (oh) + ㅊ (ch, t) = 꽃 (Ggeot) ]
[ㅎ (h) + ㅏ (ah) + ㄴ (n) = 한 (Han) ]
[ㄱ (g) + ㅜ (oo, u) + ㄱ (g, k) = 국 (Guk) ]
More on constructing words

A syllable that consists of a consonant and a "vertical vowel" is written with the consonant on the left and the vowel on the right
ㄴ + ㅏ = 나
n + ah = na

A syllable that consists of a consonant and a "horizontal vowel" is written with the consonant on top and the vowel underneath:
ㅁ + ㅗ = 모
m + oh = mo

If a syllable has a consonant, vowel, and consonant, the final consonant, called patch'im (meaning "supporting floor" in Korean) goes to the bottom -- or floor -- of that syllable.
ㅁ + ㅏ + ㄴ = 만
m + ah + n = man
Korean Words To Learn / Vocabularies

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No - 아니오 [Anioh]
Let's make a promise - 약속 하자 [Yakseok (promise) haja (to do)]
How do I do this? - 어떻개 해요? [Euddu(h)kae haeyo?]

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Useful Phrases

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Question Words

When? - 언제요? [Eun jeh yo? - Eunjeyo?]

Where? - 오디에요? [Oh dee eh yo? - Eudieyo?]

How much? - 얼마애요? [Eul ma ae yo? - Eulma-aeyo?]

Who? - 누구에요? [Noo goo eh yo? - Neugu-eyo?]

Why? - 웨요? [Weh yo? - Weyo?]

How? - 어떻게요? [Euh ddeuh keh yo? - Euddeukeyo?]

What? - 뭐애요? [Moh ae yo? - Mo-aeyo?]

What's this? - 이것이 뭐애요? [Ee-guh-shi moh-ae-yo? - Ikeushi mo-aeyo?]

Where's the bathroom? - 화장실 어디세요 [Hwa-jang-shil Euh-di-seh-yo? - Hwajangshil Eudiseyo?]
Add Ons [Different ways to say ____.. more than once]

Don't Know
몰라요 [Meorrayo]
몰라 [Meorrah]
모르겠다 [Meorreugetda]
몰리겠습니다 [Meorriget-supnida]

(I) Don't Know
나는 몰리겠다 [Nanun Meorrigetda]
나는 몰리겠습니다 [Nanun Meorriget-subnida]
나 모르겠다 [Na Meorreugetda]
나는 잘 몰라요 [Nanun Jal Meorrayo]
나 몰라요 [Na Meorrayo]
나 몰라 [Na Meorrah]

What's that?
그거 먼대? [Geukuh Mundae?]
그 먼대? [Geuh Mundae?]
그 뭐야? [Geuh Meoya?]
그 뭐예요 [Geuh Meoyaeyo?]
그거는 뭐야? [Gukeonun Meoya?]
뭐야? [Meoya?]
먼대 [Geuh Mundae?]
Parts of the body : Members of the Family : Counting 1-10 : Colors : Learning Hangeul Tips

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wow lots of usful info... am a beginner so this will help a lot... thanks-you for posting this ...thanks biggrin.gif beerchug.gif
ServantOfJesus
Thank you for posting that I would like to learn korean and someday live in korea. Do you know which language tool I need to download to make those ?
into english?
doggyji
Meet some serious Korean learners here...

http://forums.galbijim.com/index.php?showforum=4
HoneyDewHalo
Can anybody translate these words for me?
1. Virtuous
2. Trinity
3. Hannah
Capt_Funtrap
How do you say "do you want to die?" Please write it in Korean. Anglicized Korean is confusing to me.
SiNaN
Nice But witch Korea ? For example I like South Korea icon_smile.gif)
doggyji
QUOTE(HoneyDewHalo @ Aug 5 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]2133206[/snapback]

Can anybody translate these words for me?
1. Virtuous
2. Trinity
3. Hannah



1. 후덕한, 고결한, 정숙한, etc. (You will have to choose the most suitable word in each context.)
2. 삼위일체
3. 한나(transliteration, of course)

Hope this helps a bit.. icon_smile.gif

QUOTE(Capt_Funtrap @ Aug 13 2006, 04:22 AM) [snapback]2168379[/snapback]

How do you say "do you want to die?" Please write it in Korean. Anglicized Korean is confusing to me.


There can be many different forms.

"죽고 싶어?" or "죽을래?" will do. I assume you wouldn't use the honorific case when asking "you wanna die?" biggrin.gif
Captain Corea
I think 죽어 is kind of famous nowadays (with a rise at the end).
doggyji
QUOTE(Captain Corea @ Aug 15 2006, 08:21 PM) [snapback]2179555[/snapback]

I think 죽어 is kind of famous nowadays (with a rise at the end).


"죽어!" is like "die!"

So it's a bit different from "do you wanna die?" icon_smile.gif


Captain Corea
Ah, I kind of got it from that movie (yopgee girl) when she uses it as a question.
doggyji
QUOTE(Captain Corea @ Aug 15 2006, 11:53 PM) [snapback]2180534[/snapback]

Ah, I kind of got it from that movie (yopgee girl) when she uses it as a question.


Hah yeah, it seems many learn that expression after watching it.. embarassedlaugh.gif

Oh, maybe "죽어~" can be also interpreted as "you will die, huh!" just like "죽는다~"

It's about the tone I guess. That's the tricky part.
HoneyDewHalo
[quote name='doggyji' date='Aug 13 2006, 08:53 AM' post='2169397']
1. 후덕한, 고결한, 정숙한, etc. (You will have to choose the most suitable word in each context.)
2. 삼위일체
3. 한나(transliteration, of course)

Hope this helps a bit.. icon_smile.gif
There can be many different forms.

Can you please write that in the English Alphabets? Plus, I need it in a name form, not words. I'm looking for a name made of those three words.
jiehan
Hey all! I need a little help with something. How do you construct the meaning of prohibition in Korean. eg. Don't ~. I'm assuming that there are different levels of prohibition which depend on politeness and who you are talking too (like in Japanese) and thus I guess I'm looking for the strongest way of saying not to do something. (eg. in Japanese you would say 飲むな for 'don't drink' - you just stick な on the end of the dictionary form of the verb.)

Thanks in advance! If you could show me the example of "Don't drink" written in Korean that would be of a great help too!
Jarhier
QUOTE(jiehan @ Sep 3 2006, 08:28 PM) [snapback]2255949[/snapback]

I'm looking for the strongest way of saying not to do something. (eg. in Japanese you would say 飲むな for 'don't drink' - you just stick な on the end of the dictionary form of the verb.)



you replace -da with -jima.
masida(마시다)to drink -> masijima(마시지마)dont drink

jiehan
QUOTE(Jarhier @ Sep 4 2006, 05:28 AM) [snapback]2256667[/snapback]

you replace -da with -jima.
masida(마시다)to drink -> masijima(마시지마)dont drink


Thanks Jarhier, that's exactly what I was looking for!
jhonnz
hi to all! Is this korean?? please tell me what it means...

私はインターネットが切るときそれを憎む。
コラァ( ≧∇≦)ノ。ฐ゜ฐ。。ヘ(。≧O≦)ノ
私のmanga は再度ダウンロードされなければならない.... :・。・゜゜・(≧◯≦)・゜゜・。・え~~~~~~~~ん!!!
私は私が眠りたいと思うので非常に怒っている。(   ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄  ▽   ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄   ) 。 o 0 ○ ぽわわわわ~~~ん
silla
^ Yeah, its korean.

It says "As you are reading this, your computer has been infected with the MANGA virus. If you do not format drive C, your computer memory will be lost"

jhonnz
QUOTE(silla @ Sep 4 2006, 03:23 AM) [snapback]2257410[/snapback]

^ Yeah, its korean.

It says "As you are reading this, your computer has been infected with the MANGA virus. If you do not format drive C, your computer memory will be lost"

haha ok thanks!
silla
^ im just kidding. its in japanese. i have no idea what it means.
Jarhier
QUOTE(jhonnz @ Sep 4 2006, 03:18 AM) [snapback]2257399[/snapback]

hi to all! Is this korean?? please tell me what it means...

私はインターネットが切るときそれを憎む。
コラァ( ≧∇≦)ノ。ฐ゜ฐ。。ヘ(。≧O≦)ノ
私のmanga は再度ダウンロードされなければならない.... :・。・゜゜・(≧◯≦)・゜゜・。・え~~~~~~~~ん!!!
私は私が眠りたいと思うので非常に怒っている。(   ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄  ▽   ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄   ) 。 o 0 ○ ぽわわわわ~~~ん


yeah it's japanese. roughly i think he's saying he hates when internet disconnects, his manga must be downloaded at least twice(?)..so he's ticked because he wants to go to sleep.

jiehan
Going back to my earlier post, what would the opposite to replacing "da" with "jima" be? In other words how would I tell someone to do something in the strongest way? (in Japanese you'd say "飲め", meaning "Drink!")

Thanks again!
Jarhier
QUOTE(jiehan @ Sep 5 2006, 10:27 PM) [snapback]2264293[/snapback]

Going back to my earlier post, what would the opposite to replacing "da" with "jima" be? In other words how would I tell someone to do something in the strongest way? (in Japanese you'd say "飲め", meaning "Drink!")

Thanks again!


hmm..as for that form it's kinda complicated, there's no definite pattern that i can think of like -jima does.

example. as for drink, command would be ma-syuh(마셔){drink} from masi-da(마시다){to drink}. see how ㅕ(yuh) is added to ㅅ(siot) taking out -i-da(ㅣ다).

however, it wont work with every verbs you'll see, like muk-da(먹다){to eat} will become muk-uh(먹어){eat} replacing -da(다) with -uh(어) to it. and bo-da(보다){to see} will be (봐){look} adding -ah(ㅏ) to boh(보) taking -da(다) out. and ja-da(자다){to sleep} would simply be ja(자){sleep} dropping -da(다) without adding anything...not masi-uh(마시어), ma-sah(마사) or masi(마시) which has no meanings at all.

i guess you just have to memorize as you encounter..>_<;;
jiehan
^^ Thanks! It does look a little complicated... Memorising probably is the only way!
Dim_Sum_4_U
In my korean class i'm having trouble with making sentences. For example, if I want to say "I see a book" do I say na nun check oul po ah e's uh yo? ( sorry I dont have korean on my comp and Im not good at spelling -_-) How do you conjugate then endings of verbs that end in "da," like to see it po-da, to write is sue-da, etc.
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